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Frontside Lipslide

By Iskatehard at 2009-07-11 14:50

Introduction

The frontside lipslide is very similar to a backside boardslide. The big difference, however, is how you actually get onto the rail. In this trick, you're going to approach the rail frontside, ollie, and then actually move your BACK trucks over the rail and land in a boardslide.

What You Need to Know

Tricks You Should Know: 

Once you actually get onto the rail, this trick is very much like a regular backside boardslide. So, before trying this trick out, make sure you have a good backside boardslide down.

Other Skills: 

You really have to know how to control your deck on this one. Remember, you're going to be moving your back trucks over the rail, not your front. So, you're going to need a little more height to your ollie.

What You May Find Useful: 

Before you really try this trick... If you can, try doing a few frontside 180s over it, making sure you can get completely over the object.

Doing The Trick

Positioning: 
  • The back foot
    The back foot is going to similar to the placement it would have as if you were going to do an ollie. Remember, you have to have it square on the tail once you get onto the rail so you can maintain solid balance, so take that into consideration.

  • The front foot
    Your front foot should be positioned as if you were going to do a regular ollie. Depending on preference, you might want to change the position of it slightly in order to allow you to get a higher ollie than usual.
Motion: 

As you already know, you have to observe the rail you're going to slide and understand how slick it is. Do that to figure out how much speed you will need. Also, you're going to want about as much space between you and the rail as if you were going to do a regular backside boardslide... But note that a few people prefer to give themselves just a little bit more space. Consider your preference and give yourself as much room as you see fit. ALSO, make sure you're not approaching the rail with a strong angle, but you're rather more parallel with the rail.

  1. Once you've figured out how much speed and space you need, approach the object and set up for your ollie.

  2. Pop your tail and do a slight frontside 180 type motion, maneuvering your back trucks over the rail, lining up the center of your deck over the rail itself.

  3. Land on the rail, keeping your body directly over the board. Once you're on the rail, you're going to treat it as a regular backside boardslide. Bend your knees, lean forward, and stay over the board.

  4. As you're approaching the end of the rail, begin to straighten out as you would normally, and prepare to land on the ground.

  5. Land with your feet over the bolts and absorb impact appropriately, and roll away, maintain balance over your deck
Video Trick Tips: 

Troubleshooting

Really, by the time you're trying this trick you should already have a solid understanding how to do the actual sliding part and how to properly get off of the rail. If you're having problems with either of those, please refer to the backside boardslide trick tip. The following bit will address the problems you might have actually getting onto the rail.

  • I can't get on the rail, I keep hitting it with my feet/board
    This can happen for a few reasons. First, make sure you're giving yourself proper distance between yourself and the rail. Consider putting a bit more space between you and it. Also, make sure that you're popping a high enough ollie. Remember, you have to actually ollie OVER the rail in order to get this slide started, so you will need to get higher up than if you were just doing a regular backside boardslide.

  • When I get onto the rail, I slide over to the side and lose balance
    If this is happening, it's because you're approaching the rail with too much of an angle, and your force is actually going off to the side of the rail rather than straight. Remember, the more parallel you can be upon getting onto the rail, the better. So, yeah, try to be a little bit more straight upon popping your ollie and getting onto the rail.

  • I don't land in a boardslide. I either land with my back trucks on the rail, or my board isn't straightened out and I slide with my board lun-leveled
    This problem is happening because you're not getting completely over the rail properly. You might want to consider doing your ollie a little bit higher. You also need to make sure you rotate enough to completely clear your back trucks over the rail, and you're able to land in the center of your board. Rotating less than 90 degrees can lead to you being completely unable to get this trick, or you do the trick, but it looks super ugly.

Yeah, again, this is very similar to a backside boardslide in quite a few ways. If you can do those good, you should be set for the most part, and you really just need to make sure you're able to get onto the rail. If you're really having a lot of trouble with that, consider practicing this trick on a lower rail if possible. Also, consider practicing frontside 180s a little bit also.

Where Do I Go From Here?

Wherever you want. Maybe try it on some higher/longer rails. Maybe try a trick in/trick out bit. Whichever you think you would prefer the most. Good luck!

by Tardence on Sat, 2009-07-11 15:52
I just want everyone to know I WON'T be needing this trick tip, fuck yeah! /awesome

by Iskatehard on Sat, 2009-07-11 21:29
Haha, solid for you. I have to say, I personally don't find this to be a hard trick at all.. I was landing them the day I started trying them, but eh... Easy to see how some people might find getting into this trick kind of awkward

by Tardence on Sat, 2009-07-11 21:38
It's a trick that scares people I think, more than a trick people find difficult, once you go for it it's easy, but lots of people I know, some of whom are pretty good, have trouble even attempting lipslides because they're freaked out by them.

by Iskatehard on Sat, 2009-07-11 22:27
Yeah, for sure. That's a problem on so many grinds/slides. I used to have the hardest fucking time in the world commiting to fs boardslides and bs lipslides.. Which of course lead to me slamming a lot harder than I would have if I just gave it my all.

Though haha, I have to say, I remember when I was learning fs lips and shit, and I guess I got cocky about them and shit because I was doing alright with them. Ended up going too fast and got on at too much of an angle and just lost it. Fucked my tail bone up pretty bad, hurt like hell

by LauraFY1989 on Sun, 2009-07-12 08:53
I love front lips. Funny thing is I cant do a back board and i cant front 180 but I can front lip.

by Iskatehard on Sun, 2009-07-12 10:42
Really? Woah, haha, that's pretty odd. But hey, as long as you can do them, that's all that matters.

I'd bet if you tried back boards or frontside 180s you'd land them in hardly no time

by skaterbrit on Mon, 2009-07-13 14:01
is this trick basically the same for ledges or is there any different footpositioning, angle of hitting the ledge, speed e.c.t.

by Tardence on Mon, 2009-07-13 16:55
It's pretty much the same except for the balance while sliding, but it's really just like you try it and then you're like "oohh" and then you can do it. You might have to go faster and jam it in harder depending on how slick or not slick the ledge is.
Also on a lot of ledges it's possible to go at a straight on angle, which is probably a good easier way to try it at first.

Getting off is quite different, that might take some getting used to, I don't know what else to say about it, it's the sort of thing you just have to feel out.

I would say lipsliding ledges is less daunting but a little harder than lipsliding rails, which makes it more fun for me, less fear factor more challenge factor.

by I got 5 on it on Mon, 2009-07-13 17:18
i hate it when i go through all the work and land a clean lip slide, and some retard says " nice boardslide"

its alot harder than that, alot harder

by kickflippingnipple on Wed, 2009-07-15 13:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by I got 5 on it View Post
i hate it when i go through all the work and land a clean lip slide, and some retard says " nice boardslide"

its alot harder than that, alot harder
i know what you mean that happens to me all the time.

when i was first trying to learn them i was a total pussy and it seemed really hard but then once i just committed it was easy.

 
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