Anyone do graffity tagging?

[Michael]

any taggers or crew around here?

[Vivica]

tags are gay unless they are done properly.

99% of all tags = gay

[Michael]

what do you mean properly?

[Vivica]

there's a difference between real graf art, and just shit tags.

"crews" tend to just be gay teenage taggers...

let me put it this way...


teenage cunt tag:
http://img239.echo.cx/img239/8236/rdsc032886sl.jpg



real graf (by Banksy):
http://www.michael-r-nelson.com/design_blog/images/banksy.jpg

http://mediastudy.com/images/banksy-tramp.jpg




those were just the first two banksy works i found, look him up, he's an awesome graf artist.


taggers who do the sort of thing above should be destroyed.

[volcom-skater-ollie-b]

i do graffiti and tagging i have about 9 tags and 2 graffiti works in my town
i am very good, but spray paint is expensive

[Michael]

Have you got some pictures of it?

[Toxic-Fumez-Kill]

it's not called tagging it's called writing

[Let Fire Fall]

Kinda, some of them are here: http://photobucket.com/albums/b373/Mike_101/

I also have this legacy one I really like but no picture of it.

[JerseySucks]

Mischief night and tonight I tagged with my friends around town. its really fun and exhilerating, especially when you get semi caught and they chase after you but you get away. we didnt do really good grafitis because we didnt have enough time to do them, or we would of gotten caught, ill take some pics when its light out tomorrow.

[nxnja]

there's a difference between real graf art, and just shit tags.

"crews" tend to just be gay teenage taggers...

let me put it this way...


teenage cunt tag:
http://img239.echo.cx/img239/8236/rdsc032886sl.jpg



real graf (by Banksy):
http://www.michael-r-nelson.com/design_blog/images/banksy.jpg

http://mediastudy.com/images/banksy-tramp.jpg




those were just the first two banksy works i found, look him up, he's an awesome graf artist.


taggers who do the sort of thing above should be destroyed.

thats not graf, only skill thats required for that is stencil making.

i tag, ill usually just throw up "nx" unless i have the time and paint to do a nice piece.

[Peleke]

I go at night, and usually throw up a nice peice eevry month, it takes awhile to get a good one up. I do have one in downtown atlanta, I did it about 6 months ago, it's a silhouette of my first varial flip...lol, I was really, really, happy. I have a cool little Smartparts paintball symbol up somewhere, it was easy, just a crosshair.

[Vivica]

thats not graf, only skill thats required for that is stencil making.

i tag, ill usually just throw up "nx" unless i have the time and paint to do a nice piece.

you are a complete idiot then arn't you!

Banksy is more of a graf artist than anybody i can think of right now!

sure there are alot of people who take tagging seriously and do it in an artistic way, but a hell of alot of taggers are pathetic little twats.

graf is art, not writing nx up on a wall...

[Lil Benny]

vivica is right and wrong
most the time they just spray crap all over the walls and it looks crap so you have to do it right...but its not an art contest i think it is something to do when your bored and looking for something different then skate.

[Vivica]

Vivica is actually right...

graf SHOULD be artistic!

example:


this, is mindless shit...

http://www.wrybread.com/gammablablog/images/3-04/3-14/ufo.jpg

these, are fucking cool, and are really very clever!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/graffiti-tag%25202.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/zecxzlhv.jpg


end of story.

[!Ferg!]

there's a difference between real graf art, and just shit tags.

"crews" tend to just be gay teenage taggers...

let me put it this way...


teenage cunt tag:
http://img239.echo.cx/img239/8236/rdsc032886sl.jpg



real graf (by Banksy):
http://www.michael-r-nelson.com/design_blog/images/banksy.jpg

http://mediastudy.com/images/banksy-tramp.jpg




those were just the first two banksy works i found, look him up, he's an awesome graf artist.


taggers who do the sort of thing above should be destroyed.

those tags are friggen nice! :eek:

[Vivica]

they arn't tags, tags usually = gay.

Bansky is all about expresion and sharing of ideas and values through his art, its more than just tagging.

[!Ferg!]

oh ok. uh so wat do i call it. im confused. :s

[Vivica]

its just graffiti... simple as.

[!Ferg!]

so do u do graffiti alex?

[JerseySucks]

Vivica is actually right...

graf SHOULD be artistic!

example:


this, is mindless shit...

http://www.wrybread.com/gammablablog/images/3-04/3-14/ufo.jpg

these, are fucking cool, and are really very clever!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/graffiti-tag%25202.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/zecxzlhv.jpg


end of story.

viv ur wrong bro. those are probably somewhere where they were allowed to tag, and took a few days to complete. my tags arent as bad as those. but they are most of the time with 1 color. i write my tag name. give it a backshadow. and just be creative after that. i dont think you tag, because you have the mindset that you have all the time in the world to tag, most of the tagging has to be done like 2 minutes or your gonna get caught.

[Let Fire Fall]

they arn't tags, tags usually = gay.

Bansky is all about expresion and sharing of ideas and values through his art, its more than just tagging.

Are my tags gay?

[Toxic-Fumez-Kill]

I'm just doing books now 'cause then pple gonna say you're a tot if u do wack stuff but yeah

[FOSKCO_kills]

i used too but not anymore i used to be really into stencil making. whenever there is something about graffiti Banksy always comes up for some reason i think thats cool. o and most shit i see around my town is fucking TOY

LFF some of your stuff is alright like the first two that say acid are ok but the two that look like you took to a wall like the second pic or the one thats syas escape are fucked up...like if i saw it and had a marks a lot on me id slash that shit.*wait nvm i looked at them again they are all done on paper*

[Vivica]

Are my tags gay?

they're a hell of alot better than the stuff i posted, well, the tags atleast.

the sort of stuff you do it ok, it looks like some care has been taken in doing it, just writing your tag in a wall is gay though.

and i'm well aware that atleast one of the pictures i posted would have been done on legal free walls, but whats your point? it still more artistic than any of these shitty tags that are just a word sprayed on a wall.

[CasperGuy]

dont you know that my middle name is "grafiti guy".........jk......i dont like tags much exept if they re like in thug2........but i ve done grafities and they are a cool thing...well i mean cooler than concrete....

[Skat-Happy]

Heres something i drew in english class today. i dried to erase some of the blue lines in pain. lol. anyway it didnt take me long. i think it looks kinda cool though. oh and i only put the 8 because i would have run out of room to put the other letters. http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30620494093.jpg&s=x11

[JerseySucks]

they're a hell of alot better than the stuff i posted, well, the tags atleast.

the sort of stuff you do it ok, it looks like some care has been taken in doing it, just writing your tag in a wall is gay though.

and i'm well aware that atleast one of the pictures i posted would have been done on legal free walls, but whats your point? it still more artistic than any of these shitty tags that are just a word sprayed on a wall.

my point is, people that write their tags on a wall, dont have a day and a year to write it. it has to be done very quick or you risk getting caught.

[burnyourfriends]

u guys r fucking dumb. banksy uses stencils. u rlly htink he used a spray can fer that shit. although it may look good its not real art. its cool, but not that much real hardwork and effort was put into it. that doesnt mean any dumb fool cand o it but u get hte point. tags are the gay writing and w.e they are done quickk and yeah. not that elaborate. bombing a wall is kinda like a tag cept there usually two colors. bubble letters with lining filled in. stuff like that. Most of the shit u see on the walls hats real nice and has fades is very and i mean very ahrd to do. they also dont do it all in one night. graffiti is always fun even if u suck at it. the only way to get better is to practice. how do u think everyone else started. eventually u will know ur brands of paint and w.e and know how to get hte looks u want and whatnot. now u may think im good. well im ok. i cna only bomb walls. i suck at fades and doing drawings and shit. stenciling is fun, but its not real graffiti. also spray paint isnt the only hting used. fer big pieces rollers, anything cna be used basically. u guys dont know shit bout grafitti. and crews are gay. the only reason i would be in a crew was if i was like in a agang and marking territory. the more people u do it with the more chances u have of getting caught. i like to keep my groups small. most of the time by myself, or with one friend. and we take turns, one friend watches and i do my tag and vice versa. but i recently ran out of paint and am broke and cnat buy anymore. also not all stores will sell it to you which sucks. later.

[JerseySucks]

u guys r fucking dumb. banksy uses stencils. u rlly htink he used a spray can fer that shit. although it may look good its not real art. its cool, but not that much real hardwork and effort was put into it. that doesnt mean any dumb fool cand o it but u get hte point. tags are the gay writing and w.e they are done quickk and yeah. not that elaborate. bombing a wall is kinda like a tag cept there usually two colors. bubble letters with lining filled in. stuff like that. Most of the shit u see on the walls hats real nice and has fades is very and i mean very ahrd to do. they also dont do it all in one night. graffiti is always fun even if u suck at it. the only way to get better is to practice. how do u think everyone else started. eventually u will know ur brands of paint and w.e and know how to get hte looks u want and whatnot. now u may think im good. well im ok. i cna only bomb walls. i suck at fades and doing drawings and shit. stenciling is fun, but its not real graffiti. also spray paint isnt the only hting used. fer big pieces rollers, anything cna be used basically. u guys dont know shit bout grafitti. and crews are gay. the only reason i would be in a crew was if i was like in a agang and marking territory. the more people u do it with the more chances u have of getting caught. i like to keep my groups small. most of the time by myself, or with one friend. and we take turns, one friend watches and i do my tag and vice versa. but i recently ran out of paint and am broke and cnat buy anymore. also not all stores will sell it to you which sucks. later.

I know. me and some of my friends were gonna go in a group of 6 on mischief night, but we split up into 2 groups of 3, I think that was a smarter descision. We do the same thing one guy tags while others watch, but sometimes we all have enough cans for all of us, but its good to hae a watch dog if you dont feel like getting your ass thrown in jail, getting community service, and a fine, but thats never happened to me =) .

[burnyourfriends]

I know. me and some of my friends were gonna go in a group of 6 on mischief night, but we split up into 2 groups of 3, I think that was a smarter descision. We do the same thing one guy tags while others watch, but sometimes we all have enough cans for all of us, but its good to hae a watch dog if you dont feel like getting your ass thrown in jail, getting community service, and a fine, but thats never happened to me =) .

i find it works better. shaking cnas make loud noises in the middle of the night. lol. mischeif night is hte worst time to go cuz cops are expecting it btw. also i try to tag governent property, or like stuff that doesnt belong to sum1. like not a store, or w.e cuz htats mnean. dont do to others what u dont want done to u. i mean u gotta hve sum decency. im sure there are some places where iw ould make an exception but cmon why would u graffitti a rlly nice store. thats being an asshole not an artist.

[mongokills]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/stairwaygraffiti.html

this is the shit

[Vivica]

u guys r fucking dumb. banksy uses stencils. u rlly htink he used a spray can fer that shit. although it may look good its not real art....

thats retarded man, all i was saying is that 'Tagging' is gay as hell!

and OF COURSE i know how banksy does his ART, and i would ALWAYS call that sort of stencil art more art than almost any 'Tag'

there's a difference between tags and graf art!

tags = gay
graf art = cool
stencil gref = graf ART

[burnyourfriends]

thats retarded man, all i was saying is that 'Tagging' is gay as hell!

and OF COURSE i know how banksy does his ART, and i would ALWAYS call that sort of stencil art more art than almost any 'Tag'

there's a difference between tags and graf art!

tags = gay
graf art = cool
stencil gref = graf ART
ok im gonna say this fer the last time. STENCILS ARE NOT FUCkING ART. Let me tell u, if you go tagging in the city ro something and someone sees u using a stencil, no one will ever respect u. stenciling looks nice when its done properly, but its not grafitti art. art is those colorful murals u see on the wall not stencils. get it through ur head. STENCILS ARENT GRAFFITI ART.

[burnyourfriends]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/stairwaygraffiti.html

this is the shit
thats a stencil. and i think it looks cool, but its not great.
this is real graf art. the artists def didnt use stencils for that.
http://www.interglotz.de/albums/wa_images/n_ritze2_jpg.jpg
kinda bad but gets the point across.
http://www.photojunkie.ca/photoblog/graffitibuilding.jpg
thats fucking awesome.
http://www.bluedistortion.com/images/artwork/graffiti-20.jpg
thats skill idk how hte fuck he did that.

I would love to see someone try to do that with stencils. thats what u people dont get. stencils may look cool. but there is only so much u cna do with them.

[Vivica]

ok im gonna say this fer the last time. STENCILS ARE NOT FUCkING ART. Let me tell u, if you go tagging in the city ro something and someone sees u using a stencil, no one will ever respect u. stenciling looks nice when its done properly, but its not grafitti art. art is those colorful murals u see on the wall not stencils. get it through ur head. STENCILS ARENT GRAFFITI ART.


you are so narrow minded, art isn't about respect.

and just because somebody uses a stencil doens't mean its not graf!

shut up and grow up.

[SkateorElse]

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2297/banksy1ps.th.jpg (http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=banksy1ps.jpg)

[Vivica]

see, thats another one by banksy, and its brilliant!

[SkateorElse]

yes I agree theres a whole site full of pictures

[Vivica]

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/newfullsize/beachboys_01.jpg

so apparently he's a dab hand with just a can too...

It's always easier to get forgiveness than permission

[SkateorElse]

http://www.banksy.co.uk/menu.html

[Vivica]

http://stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data/501/1864im_your_streetfather.jpg

art mate...

[SkateorElse]

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/thug.jpg another by banksy

[Hippopotamus]

a few of my friends got me into wheat pasting, it looks so good when it's done, shit's true street art. i cant find any pictures of our shit but if you're ever in or around Seattle keep your eye, out, since they're not all in the most obvious places, so that only people who are very conscious of their surroundings can see the sheer genious and beauty of it all. a few of my friends also do stencil tags, we've got a big bag of red spray paint and stencils that gets hauled around everywhere, one of my favorite stencils is an actual-sized light switch that we put up next to doors in the place where a lightswitch normally would go. im not into stencils that much but I like that one a lot.

[Vivica]

can you explain what exactly wheat pasting is? :s

[Hippopotamus]

you have to have a picture ready, like a computer print-out or something. you make this weird paste-like stuff using wheat, im not sure how, im shit at this stuff. pretty much you put a picture between teo layers of wheat paste on like a wall or something and it looks very nice and is impossible to remove (only way to get rid of it is to paint over it). I think that "i am your father" piece is wheat pasting, as is some earlier stuff in here

[Vivica]

the AT-AT is DEFINATLY stencil work!

i know what you mean now don't worry, its just like flyers :p

[Hippopotamus]

yeah i just meant it looked similar to that, no worries bro

[JerseySucks]

VIVICA!!!

for the last time before you put another one of bankys STENCILS and say LOLR3AL@R7. listen, real tagging you dont have a fucking hour and a day to do. and stencils are gay as hell because thats not spraypainting u could use a roller for that. real tags cant be amazingly good because you get caught if u take too much time, get it through your head, you have obviously never tagged before. the most ill spend in one spot is 10 minutes.

and yes, dont do someones car or someones business, thats pretty rude and stupid, its like stealing money from them. I only do factorys, government ***** signs, etc.

Have a nice tag night =D

[Vivica]

i've only put a couple of his things up here...

and i still completely disagree that stencils are not gay!

[nxnja]

you are a complete idiot then arn't you!

Banksy is more of a graf artist than anybody i can think of right now!

sure there are alot of people who take tagging seriously and do it in an artistic way, but a hell of alot of taggers are pathetic little twats.

graf is art, not writing nx up on a wall...

i understand that, but most serious taggers started by just doing little throw ups.

[Vivica]

yea man i can dig that, i'm just trying to say that really good graf isn't done in a minute...

[burnyourfriends]

dude in this case art is about respect so shut the fuck up cuz u have prob never ever tagged in ur entire life and dont know shit. so stick to making stencils. other artists will respect your work if A u r good enough adn B u dont use stencils or w.e and yeah, thats hwo it works. u work ur way up to get known. and those tags that u say are gay. they might nto be work, but thats where eveyrone starts. i do em sumtimes hwen i only hav eone color paint.

[nxnja]

yeah exactly, unless i have the paint and time ill just do a throw up, if i have the needed stuff ill do a piece.

[burnyourfriends]

vivicia doesnt no shit bout real grafitti. theres a diff between grafitti and stencil grafitti. thats all im trying to say buddy.

[skater_cop]

i was just playing around this day...lol...look at the first one.its one of my ramps.LOL.

its the firt pic..the rest of them are just of me skating.you can click on it to make it bigger.don't ask...i was bored..and skater cop is my nickname if you all were wondering....

http://www.icelounge.com/Member/MemberVideo.asp?UserID=19140

[PoppinFreshGOD]

Anyone here heard of Saber? He does some pretty complicated ***** and I'm pretty sure most of it was illegal.

L.A River Peice

http://www.saberone.com/graf/photos/pieceriverpiece.JPEG

[burnyourfriends]

Anyone here heard of Saber? He does some pretty complicated ***** and I'm pretty sure most of it was illegal.

L.A River Peice

http://www.saberone.com/graf/photos/pieceriverpiece.JPEG
thats fucking sweet.

[-=MuTT=-]

Oh Vivica, you really don't know anything about graffiti, do you?

Tagging is the process of writing your name on territory to present yourself. A tag should only be done once you have it down. It is the one biggest time in graffiti that a writer needs to have style in his pieces.

A crew is actually a good thing. It's basically a group of writers that work on a peice together. A "Crew" isn't a group of taggers. It's a group of writers, usually independant, each with diffeent names, that do a peice together. They often involve people that buy paint, artists, protection, writers and eveyhthing else.

As for Pieces, they are actually graffiti works. A stencil is a graffiti, it's a stencil there's a difference. Graffiti not only refers to writing on walls, it has been domesticated to mean tags and actual pieces. A stencil is only refered to graffiti when done on a wall. If someone asks you what you do, you should either say "stencils" or "graffiti" meaning pieces.

And no Jersey, peices aren't done over days. They're done in one night after months of planning. And if they are done in places that allow it, it's not graffiti anymore.

Edit: tags are not done sketched out. They're practiced until they can be done quickly. Banksy is a graffiti artist only in the sense that he does it on walls. What you're arguing is that Banksy is a real graffiti artist. He is a stencil artist. Graffiti artists are people like Lee, Futura 2000 and Afrika Bambaataa.

As for myself, I do both. I do a lot of tags. I like both. Also, at no time in this writing do I denounce either one. They're both art and take enormous amoounts of skill and sould only be done with practice. I support them.

Vivica, open your mind.

Edit 2: A tag doesn't involve 2 layers. 1 outline and 1 filler is a throw-up.Used in battles for a spot.

Burnyourfreinds, you don't know anything about graffiti.

ok im gonna say this fer the last time. STENCILS ARE NOT FUCkING ART. Let me tell u, if you go tagging in the city ro something and someone sees u using a stencil, no one will ever respect u. stenciling looks nice when its done properly, but its not grafitti art. art is those colorful murals u see on the wall not stencils. get it through ur head. STENCILS ARENT GRAFFITI ART.

Stencils are art. Graffiti is art. As for the respect thing, a tag and piece are for respect. A throw up is used in territory markings and battles. You gai nrespect from being god at what you do. You wil lget respect from a stencil. You'll get respect from other stencil artists. It's graffit, like a said, becuase it's done on a wall, but not popularized raffiti. Also ,you don't tag with stencils. You are an idiot.

[d_n_b_and_d_u_b]

i suck at graff, so no. my friends are so talented though.

[bahaha]

mutt knows his shit .. sept for this comment.

"And no Jersey, peices aren't done over days. They're done in one night after months of planning. And if they are done in places that allow it, it's not graffiti anymore."

while the majority of pieces are done in just one night, they certainly dont take months of planning. massive exaggeration right there.
but whatever im just being pedantic.

i dont really write .. but alot of my friends do, my brother does and i have a pretty wide knowledge of writers.
.. i know alot of writers.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/maggotface/2b71689e.jpg

this is done by someone in my brothers crew ($1 crew!) ... hes sick.

[alphagoat]

vivica is totally right. those lame, unartistic, 11-year-old scribbles that make your eyes bleed are just awful. however, artistic grafitti can really make a blank wall beautiful.

[Vivica]

dude in this case art is about respect so shut the fuck up cuz u have prob never ever tagged in ur entire life and dont know shit. so stick to making stencils. other artists will respect your work if A u r good enough adn B u dont use stencils or w.e and yeah, thats hwo it works. u work ur way up to get known. and those tags that u say are gay. they might nto be work, but thats where eveyrone starts. i do em sumtimes hwen i only hav eone color paint.


listen kid, i'm going to guess just by the way you spell and type that you're an idiot ok... art is art, end of story, how you get to your finished peice doesn't matter, its about why its there that matters!
you have no idea about me, and hence cannot say that i know nothing about graf.
i still stick by my posts saying that MOST tags are gay as hell!
it is obvious to any idiot though, that i do respect REAL graf artists, people who do put some serious effort and thought into their work, not just throwing up a name or symbol, that=gay.


vivicia doesnt no shit bout real grafitti. theres a diff between grafitti and stencil grafitti. thats all im trying to say buddy.


and i understand that, but its all still graf, you cannot deny that.

[Vivica]

vivica is totally right. those lame, unartistic, 11-year-old scribbles that make your eyes bleed are just awful. however, artistic grafitti can really make a blank wall beautiful.


Word! like the thing bahaha posted, thats pretty good, it looks ok.

but it looks like its been sprayed right over a gay little one colour scribbled tag!

the stupid little tag = gay

whats covering it up = alright.

[-=MuTT=-]

What you need to learn about tags, is that (real) ones take enourmous amounts of time to perfect. As for the part about jsu "throwing up their names", you are actually right. But it's about more then that. It's about respect and getting known.

Futura 2000 Tag:
http://www.subwayoutlaws.com/tag%20page2/Futura200_tag%20copy.jpg

[encyclopedia]

What you need to learn about tags, is that (real) ones take enourmous amounts of time to perfect. As for the part about jsu "throwing up their names", you are actually right. But it's about more then that. It's about respect and getting known.

Futura 2000 Tag:
http://www.subwayoutlaws.com/tag%20page2/Futura200_tag%20copy.jpg

You see, to me that just looks like another run of the mill pikey tag done in some council estate. I'd much rather spray or roll my stencils which MAKE YOU THINK than write some pikey name like SPR4Y3R on some wall, making it look ugly.

[Vivica]

i agree with you to a degree, but that one isn't too bad!

it looks a hell of alot better than the shit below it!

[-=MuTT=-]

You see, to me that just looks like another run of the mill pikey tag done in some council estate. I'd much rather spray or roll my stencils which MAKE YOU THINK than write some pikey name like SPR4Y3R on some wall, making it look ugly.
Thats the thing, a tag isn't supposed to make you think. it's to get your name up and show your place. A stencil can no where near be judged like a graffiti piece.

You need to realize the difference between these thigns.

[headrush_skater]

hah look at vivica tryin to act like she knows her shit. hoe sit dow. tags arent always just mindless pieces of shit that people throwup. tags=quick throwies or handstyles that you do in short amounts of time as to not get caught. all the ones you posted were stencils, thats not graffiti, thats stencilling. tags, pieces, bombs and burners are actually better graffiti than stencils, to pretty much any writer. stencils are fun to do. but thats it. usually, people who stencil are either serious writers that want somethin easy to throw up, or posers who want their shit to look cool, so they draw somethin and cut it out. that little "cunt tag" you posted, is not very good, but its called a handstyle, thats a signature. vivica, you need to learn your shit before you step into a world you dont know. and shut the fuck up about "just writing your tag on a wall is gay" there is nothing wrong with that, if you have a decent looking tag, and it expresses what youre feeling, its just as good as a burner, though not as flashy. some of the best writers only do throwies and handies. i suggest you go here www.bboy.org and look through the graffiti section to find out what youre talking about because you obviously have no clue.

[headrush_skater]

i agree with you to a degree, but that one isn't too bad!

it looks a hell of alot better than the shit below it!

actually, if you look to the lower left center of that pic you quoted on, there is quite an intricate little handstyle there, looks to be better than the one that the picture is of.

[headrush_skater]

mainly because the intro letters are flared

[nxnja]

exactly, mutt and that other dude know what theyre talking about.

[Let Fire Fall]

You see, to me that just looks like another run of the mill pikey tag done in some council estate. I'd much rather spray or roll my stencils which MAKE YOU THINK than write some pikey name like SPR4Y3R on some wall, making it look ugly.

I wish I could do good ***** but I can only do measly tags. I wouldn't even bother putting them up anywhere. I only do it to pass the time and for people who ask me to do their name or something.

[headrush_skater]

hah oh, and vivica:
nx= a throw up
you= a dumb bitch
you shouldnt criticize what you dont know about. stop saying tags are gay, and stop saying that stencil art is more graffiti than tagging, because youre wrong. tagging is a highly respected form of graffiti, stencilling is not, the illest stencil is all anybody wants to see of it.
you dont know your ***** and even though ive posted about 4 times now, im tired of seeing your posts in here. i just read the second page, and ive never had less respect for someone who thinks they know about something. the funny thing is that youre so convinced that you know what youre talking about, but you dont have any how many people you are offending, or how many serious writers are laughing at you.
come back when you know your shit.

[headrush_skater]

exactly, mutt and that other dude know what theyre talking about.

me?

[-=MuTT=-]

As it seems, headrush and I are the only ones that know our shit.

Head, I agree with mos tof what you have said, but I have to idsagree, Atenciling is a form of graffiti, but it should not be compared to tagging/peice graffiti. They're 2 completely different forms.

[headrush_skater]

thats the point i was trying to make by saying that its not graffiti, im not saying its not art, its just not graff, its stencilling. just like marker handstyles arent graff, theyre just sigs.

[headrush_skater]

in my opinion

[headrush_skater]

mutt, you got any flix of your shit? i used to have some at memphswriters.net but i dunno if its still there, it was under stitch

[-=MuTT=-]

Ah, i'll try and get some later. I had a tag down, but I'm perfecting it.

[nxnja]

i havent tagged anything in atleast a month, next time i tag something i might get a pic.

i need some paint though, and tips.

[nxnja]

haha, i was out tagging earlier with a new marker and this cop rolled up to me, but he was just going to the gangsta part of town.

[headrush_skater]

i havent been bombin in about 5 months, im taking a break from being chased by the police lol. who in here has done graffiti while naked? thats a thrill right there. if i can get a new piece up soon, ill get some flix.

[that cool guy]

ahh you penises.. you all bitch about others giving skaters a bad name then you brag about this shit? this is why everyone hates us

[headrush_skater]

well you can go fuck yourself because you just made yourself a minority and everybody in this forum is gonna hate you now. ive never been caught by anyone other than a police officer...and one apartment tennentm and ive never been skating while doing graffiti. youre a dumbshit for thinking that what is said on a skate website is making skaters look bad, when this topic has NOTHING to do with skateboarding. i bet youre just mad because you cant write or skate, so shut the fuck up. i fucked your mother.

[that cool guy]

wtf? this has everything to do with skating, and also nothing. This is the sole reason i get kicked out of our local school everyday, because the janitor thinks we're grafitti'ing because everyone else does it. so you need to shut the fuck up. and i can skate alot better than you can

[headrush_skater]

you know, i bet you can, check out my rate me you queer. and skating has nothing to do with graffiti. skating is a sport and a way of life, graffiti is a hobby, an art, and a form of expression. skateboarding is some of what graffiti is, but they are 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS
graffiti is an element of hip hop, skateboarding is not, you are a fucking dumb bloody tampon-dildo using douchebag. youre just as bad as vivica at tryint to make a fucking point. the janitor thinks you graffiti "because everybody else does" that seems like it has a whole hell of a lot to do with skateboarding. you pretty much made my point for me you fucking retard. jesus christ, the world has too many stupid people.

[that cool guy]

i guess if your a gangster/hip hopper out to set your territory its ok.. but its just gay that people bitch about everyone giving skaters a bad name and then go tag.. i wasnt saying anything against it as an art.. and your rate me sucked, your heelflips suck, and you suck.

[headrush_skater]

my heels suck, the one you saw sucked, you didnt happen to see the heelflip i did yesterday down the long 4 in the apartment complex behind my house. dont talk when you dont know.

[headrush_skater]

i guess you also didnt happen to see the heelflip i landed over the 3 decks yesterday either, or the varial heel rewind i landed yesterday

[headrush_skater]

but you know what, gimme a few days to get some footage together and then ill show you how wrong you are.

[that cool guy]

i was judging on the footage you wanted everyone to judge you on.. so dont complain to me

if you want me to believe you, then do what you say and post more footage.. and how the fuck would i see the things you landed? and I think your lying anyway. but feel free to prove me wrong.. i want to see that heelpflip down the 9

[Vivica]

stop saying tags are gay, and stop saying that stencil art is more graffiti than tagging, because youre wrong. tagging is a highly respected form of graffiti, stencilling is not

Right, as you think you've so badly "flamed me" over this, i will repeat what i've been saying one last time for you ok.

i never said all tags are gay

shit childish crappy unartistic tags ARE gay

tags that look decent, and have obviously had some time and effort put into their development etc, are cool

i have NEVER said that stencils are MORE graffiti than tagging, i just said that they ARE still graf, and should be seen as such.

and you think that respect matters? seriously kid, if it its all about just getting respect then fuck it! thats pathetic! there's so much more to art, even graf art, than just being respected.

i hope you've understood that time ;)

[-=MuTT=-]

This doesn't have to do with skating. I never tag while skating and never tag spots.

[Let Fire Fall]

I don't tag places in general. Yea, I can do some, but I'll only put it on paper because I don't think it really needs to be put up. I wish I could do some real good ***** like a whole piece. I'd throw that shit up if I could do it.

[goatse_man]

ye i write i write panic and im in a crew called cbm stands for cans buckets markers

[-=MuTT=-]

ye i write i write panic and im in a crew called cbm stands for cans buckets markers

all you other toys better respect this guy. this fuckers down with graffiti. dig?

[biff_corp]

i was judging on the footage you wanted everyone to judge you on.. so dont complain to me

if you want me to believe you, then do what you say and post more footage.. and how the fuck would i see the things you landed? and I think your lying anyway. but feel free to prove me wrong.. i want to see that heelpflip down the 9

he landed it down a four faggot. read his post.

[goatse_man]

i just did this piece a couple days ago http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Josh123/5da306af.jpg

[TheVegiSkater]

i tag but hardly ever finish coz spray can runs out and nearly get caught:mad: :mad: :mad:

[ryanB]

okay, about 75% of people here are lying and have never tagged anythiung in their lives. and unless your really good. god i hate when people ou suck try to write. it makes everything look so shitty. dont tag unless your good which most people are not. i could safley say that i could own most every body in this thread at writing

[SmaShitUp87]

all you other toys better respect this guy. this fuckers down with graffiti. dig?

What the hell was that? Sounded like somthing off that 80's movie, Breakin'.

[biff_corp]

okay, about 75% of people here are lying and have never tagged anythiung in their lives. and unless your really good. god i hate when people ou suck try to write. it makes everything look so shitty. dont tag unless your good which most people are not. i could safley say that i could own most every body in this thread at writing

kay shutthefuck up. i can guarentee youve never tagged. and i hvae been tagging numourous times so get your facts straight..

[headrush_skater]

i just did this piece a couple days ago http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Josh123/5da306af.jpg

now thats some phat shit. nice work

[GaboSkin]

i do tags and vandalize hahahaha never tried graffity,i think its good art but wastes a lot of money

[GaboSkin]

not always,im 2 crews, one of em B.T.Krew its really cool,its about like 20-25 ppl and its all you know skate & destroy,mostly all of em' skate......its really cool

[Vivica]

i do tags and vandalize hahahaha never tried graffity,i think its good art but wastes a lot of money


twat

[headrush_skater]

twat

bitch

[Vivica]

haha, dude, READ what he said and tell me that i wasn't justified there.

give your grudge a rest for a minute and read ok.

[nxnja]

wtf is graffity tagging?

if you see someone with paint on their fingers and a graff shirt on you dont ask them if they graffity tag, youll look like an idiot. you ask them if they write. then you wont come off as a little toy bitch.

[goatse_man]

now thats some phat shit. nice work
thanks bro

[JerseySucks]

As it seems, headrush and I are the only ones that know our shit.

Head, I agree with mos tof what you have said, but I have to idsagree, Atenciling is a form of graffiti, but it should not be compared to tagging/peice graffiti. They're 2 completely different forms.

look your like 12 years old, i doubt youve ever sprayed anything in your life. really the only thing i can say that sums up my hatred for your stupidity is get a life.

[JerseySucks]

this is my tag. no its not a piece, its the thing i throw up everywhere

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5516/319681082l5hj.jpg

[headrush_skater]

this is my tag. no its not a piece, its the thing i throw up everywhere

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5516/319681082l5hj.jpg

thats pretty nice except for the run, you get that drip more exaggerated and then itll look pretty sweet. drips are hard to make look good though.

i say you should play around with flares for the top of that throwie, maybe shorten it a bit, it looks kinda long for a throw up.

how long did that take? last time i threw up a name that long, it took me...longer than it should have lol.

nice stuff though.

[CarbonDioxide]

what do u write

[JerseySucks]

thats pretty nice except for the run, you get that drip more exaggerated and then itll look pretty sweet. drips are hard to make look good though.

i say you should play around with flares for the top of that throwie, maybe shorten it a bit, it looks kinda long for a throw up.

how long did that take? last time i threw up a name that long, it took me...longer than it should have lol.

nice stuff though.
took me about 2 minutes, and thanks for the advice

[Vivica]

way to quote mate ;)

my mind is open... just not open to mindless shit little stuff that has no meaning, skill, or effort behind it.

[browntown559]

Oh Vivica, you really don't know anything about graffiti, do you?

Tagging is the process of writing your name on territory to present yourself. A tag should only be done once you have it down. It is the one biggest time in graffiti that a writer needs to have style in his pieces.

A crew is actually a good thing. It's basically a group of writers that work on a peice together. A "Crew" isn't a group of taggers. It's a group of writers, usually independant, each with diffeent names, that do a peice together. They often involve people that buy paint, artists, protection, writers and eveyhthing else.

As for Pieces, they are actually graffiti works. A stencil is a graffiti, it's a stencil there's a difference. Graffiti not only refers to writing on walls, it has been domesticated to mean tags and actual pieces. A stencil is only refered to graffiti when done on a wall. If someone asks you what you do, you should either say "stencils" or "graffiti" meaning pieces.

And no Jersey, peices aren't done over days. They're done in one night after months of planning. And if they are done in places that allow it, it's not graffiti anymore.

Edit: tags are not done sketched out. They're practiced until they can be done quickly. Banksy is a graffiti artist only in the sense that he does it on walls. What you're arguing is that Banksy is a real graffiti artist. He is a stencil artist. Graffiti artists are people like Lee, Futura 2000 and Afrika Bambaataa.

As for myself, I do both. I do a lot of tags. I like both. Also, at no time in this writing do I denounce either one. They're both art and take enormous amoounts of skill and sould only be done with practice. I support them.
.

yah Mutt is right, The influence is diffrent on other citys and it way of a culture almost.

[CarbonDioxide]

haha yeah that's what i've always been saying people are like do you tag when it should be do you write

[headrush_skater]

haha yeah that's what i've always been saying people are like do you tag when it should be do you write

doesnt matter what you ask, the point is still conveyed.

[sk8aj]

Kinda, some of them are here: http://photobucket.com/albums/b373/Mike_101/

I also have this legacy one I really like but no picture of it.
r those pics spray paint cans or those paint pens

[-=MuTT=-]

look your like 12 years old, i doubt youve ever sprayed anything in your life. really the only thing i can say that sums up my hatred for your stupidity is get a life.

I'm a lot more supported in this thread then you are.

[drizzle]

if drawing penises on random stranger's stuff (at buss stops, school, wallmart, ect.) and running away couts as graffity tagging, then yes, yes i do.

[KRUX???]

i tag to get ideas out to people. i also do it for the artistic side of it.

[Flip_skater567]

im only 14 so i havent really done any actual writing yet the closest ive gotten was at my friends house doing something on skate stuff, but i like just doing stuff in sharpie and i enjoy it ive made a few cool things, thats it though a lot of it ends up poopy unless i somehow do something cool. But yeah, i hope to go out and write something someday because its just always been one of my kinky fantasies

[KRUX???]

yeah i think that kid should think for himself and make a reason to tag for himself

[skate4life1]

ive tagged but it wasnt good. i almost got caught.

[KRUX???]

cool

[headrush_skater]

anybody else seeing the ass on the banner above the comment box?

[shortstax35]

mexicans smell very badly

[KRUX???]

yes i saw the ass its niiice

[headrush_skater]

mexicans smell very badly

get the dirty n00b!!!!!!

[CarbonDioxide]

Alright, time to set things straight, tags aren't graffiti. If you do that gang graffiti no thats not art. Tags are handstyles a unique style that contains the writers name in their own individual letters and are mostly written with mops, and markers designed/fixed to write on wall surfaces. A bomb can be any graffiti done quickly or throw up done quickly hence "Ey bro me and my cousin went bombing last night", a Throw up is either a writers name or parts of the writers name done in "bubble" letters, a throw up is done quickly and is sloppy and usually not filled in or filled in the following day and added with details to make a Piece. A piece are more complicated and contain many styles formed togeither and a variety of colors and shading, most tots/begginers/toys suck at pieces and shouldn't even think of leaving that notebook/paper until they develop good handstyles, throw ups then they shall be worthy enough to control a spray paint can. Later on you can learn about caps/nozzles for certain bombings/pieces and many diff things related to this art like stencils, stickers/usps stickies and such

[headrush_skater]

Alright, time to set things straight, tags aren't graffiti. If you do that gang graffiti no thats not art. Tags are handstyles a unique style that contains the writers name in their own individual letters and are mostly written with mops, and markers designed/fixed to write on wall surfaces. A bomb can be any graffiti done quickly or throw up done quickly hence "Ey bro me and my cousin went bombing last night", a Throw up is either a writers name or parts of the writers name done in "bubble" letters, a throw up is done quickly and is sloppy and usually not filled in or filled in the following day and added with details to make a Piece. A piece are more complicated and contain many styles formed togeither and a variety of colors and shading, most tots/begginers/toys suck at pieces and shouldn't even think of leaving that notebook/paper until they develop good handstyles, throw ups then they shall be worthy enough to control a spray paint can. Later on you can learn about caps/nozzles for certain bombings/pieces and many diff things related to this art like stencils, stickers/usps stickies and such

i, along with 2 other members, already posted this.

tags are graffiti, technically anything that is put on a wall that is illegal is chategorized as graffiti.

go here www.bboy.org and go to their graffiti forum, that is the most in depth i think you can get about graffiti.

[nxnja]

this is my tag. no its not a piece, its the thing i throw up everywhere

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5516/319681082l5hj.jpg


your can control sucks..

[nxnja]

Alright, time to set things straight, tags aren't graffiti. If you do that gang graffiti no thats not art. Tags are handstyles a unique style that contains the writers name in their own individual letters and are mostly written with mops, and markers designed/fixed to write on wall surfaces. A bomb can be any graffiti done quickly or throw up done quickly hence "Ey bro me and my cousin went bombing last night", a Throw up is either a writers name or parts of the writers name done in "bubble" letters, a throw up is done quickly and is sloppy and usually not filled in or filled in the following day and added with details to make a Piece. A piece are more complicated and contain many styles formed togeither and a variety of colors and shading, most tots/begginers/toys suck at pieces and shouldn't even think of leaving that notebook/paper until they develop good handstyles, throw ups then they shall be worthy enough to control a spray paint can. Later on you can learn about caps/nozzles for certain bombings/pieces and many diff things related to this art like stencils, stickers/usps stickies and such

lol i just got my order of 500 288's from usps, love sticking them all over.

[CarbonDioxide]

nxnja did you pay for those :toung:

[nxnja]

no theyre free

go here

http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productDetail.jsp?OID=1003578

you can get 500 for free, then if you want more place another order

[black_world_skater]

Vivica is actually right...

graf SHOULD be artistic!

example:


this, is mindless shit...

http://www.wrybread.com/gammablablog/images/3-04/3-14/ufo.jpg

these, are fucking cool, and are really very clever!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/graffiti-tag%25202.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/miztake/zecxzlhv.jpg


end of story.

The one with Che Guevera pwns

[headrush_skater]

the one with che guevara is a stencil of his face. tons of people stencil che.

[CarbonDioxide]

why do they like che didn't he work for fidel down in cuba

[burnyourfriends]

wtf? this has everything to do with skating, and also nothing. This is the sole reason i get kicked out of our local school everyday, because the janitor thinks we're grafitti'ing because everyone else does it. so you need to shut the fuck up. and i can skate alot better than you can
Havent been in htis htread for a while. I'm not gonna say anyhting, but my point fromt he very start was that stenciling and actual graffiti/works of art are not the same thing. Now that being said. THAT COOL GUY you get kicked out of the highschool because they are afraid ou will beak something, as well as it being a liability. Now don't say I won't break anything because we all do it. everytime u grind a ledge you wear some of it down. Little things like that. Secondly the school has a liability issue which means if you fall and break your neck trying to do a "cool" trick then they are held responsible. And I barely ever go tagging because i like in the fucking suburbs and there is nowhere to tag unless it is like a sewage place, or under bridges. And yeah I am not the best tagger here, as a matter of fact I probably suck. But I don't live in a place where a bunch of people go tagging. Its a town, not a city.
That being said this post is kinda gay so I say instead of arguing, we share pictures of our works, regerdless of skill level and talent.

[Kevo]

http://www.skatelair.net/katch.html the graffiti one of the pros of Natural Koncepts did in the bowl at skate lair which is my local shop.

[Heartagram]

http://www.skatelair.net/katch.html the graffiti one of the pros of Natural Koncepts did in the bowl at skate lair which is my local shop.
that guys pretty good...

[Kataklysmic]

Me and my friend do it on wooden boards in his backward cause his dad is a painter. We do that just because we don't want to get caught.

[JerseySucks]

your can control sucks..
ty

[Let Fire Fall]

I did a decent piece (on paper, I've never done one on a wall, so if you wanna bitch about it go ahead). I did it for my girlfriend, gave it to her yesterday, and she loved it. I did my name and hers in bubble letters (my style of them) and then to add to it I put some other stuff that wouldn't mean anything to anyone but her and I. All black and white. No picture though.

[subbblime]

graffiti is my passion althoguh ive had to stop now and limit myself to doin my room because it seems liek everyone around here is gettin arrested for it

[Airblaster]

actually it is called tagging.. and i doubt someone with an icon with a stick figure that says your gay has 11 tags. my ass.

[blueprint73]

vivica there only stencils but they are sik

[sk8ter_4life]

graffiti is stupid when its gang-related stuff, or just there for vandalism and bein an asshole. real graffiti art is ment for self expression

[headrush_skater]

graffiti is stupid when its gang-related stuff, or just there for vandalism and bein an asshole. real graffiti art is ment for self expression

kinda late there bud. i think about 20 people have already made this point.

[h_arthur_12]

there's a difference between real graf art, and just shit tags.

"crews" tend to just be gay teenage taggers...

let me put it this way...


teenage cunt tag:
http://img239.echo.cx/img239/8236/rdsc032886sl.jpg



real graf (by Banksy):
http://www.michael-r-nelson.com/design_blog/images/banksy.jpg

http://mediastudy.com/images/banksy-tramp.jpg




those were just the first two banksy works i found, look him up, he's an awesome graf artist.


taggers who do the sort of thing above should be destroyed.
wow this bansky dude rules. those were stencils though

[skater_cop]

yeah to bad its stencils.^^^
not as impressive

[Let Fire Fall]

yeah to bad its stencils.^^^
not as impressive

Doesn't matter at fucking all. He doesnt lose any respect in my bok. He's fucking ill. You can say it's not as impressive when you can do shit like that.

[CarbonDioxide]

yeah I tried to make a stencil once, very hard shit to do imagine trying to cut out all those details out, unless he used some machine. Dope nevertheless

[Vivica]

Doesn't matter at fucking all. He doesnt lose any respect in my bok. He's fucking ill. You can say it's not as impressive when you can do shit like that.

word!!

in my books it takes just as much still as spraying proper graff, none of this "writing" bull***** proper graff's more than just writing, its art, and stencils can be used in graffiti art in my books!

[-=MuTT=-]

word!!

in my books it takes just as much still as spraying proper graff, none of this "writing" bull***** proper graff's more than just writing, its art, and stencils can be used in graffiti art in my books!

Belive it or not a tag invlovles just as much art as a peice.

[FG Haze]

yeah, living in New England, you see lots, and lots of graffiti... some is cool, but its very rare to find anything that is done properly... If you're gonna vandalize, do it well.