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d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 10:46 AM
what do you people think about this stupid controverse between underOATH and NOFX? in my opinion i didnt think NOFX had the right to say shit to underOATH for spreading christianity during warped. just becasue underOATH is bigger then NOFX right now doesnt mean that have to be assholes and say shit to them. (by the way if you people dont know, underOATH is awkward spot and may split up. i say thats fucked up and i really hope they dont)

dain84
08-02-2006, 10:54 AM
I love NOFX and hate Underoath, but that was fucked up.

SoHereIAm
08-02-2006, 11:03 AM
what'd they do?

RageAgainstTheToyMachine
08-02-2006, 11:11 AM
Fuck warpedtour, and NOFX. Just shit mainstream bands chosen by the shittiest shoe company based on a narrowminded music selection for all the scene kids. Just my view.

skatrr
08-02-2006, 11:17 AM
I thought it was rather funny when my friend told me about that
screw Underoath

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 12:33 PM
I thought it was rather funny when my friend told me about that
screw Underoath
meanie :-\. im sure you didnt even get the full story

SoHereIAm
08-02-2006, 12:34 PM
what'd they do?
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hamburger
08-02-2006, 01:09 PM
From punknews.org:


Since popular Christian hardcore/metal act Underoath dropped off the Warped Tour at the end of the last week, there has been much speculation about the reasons behind it, among the rumours reasons was that NOFX vocalist Fat Mike was somehow involved.

Mike offered us a statement explaining the situation.

"Sorry folks, as much as I do like controversy, there really isn't any to report on this subject. Underoath have left the Warped Tour, and as much as people want to give me credit for that, the truth is they just really needed a break apparently. Some people have suggested that they bailed because I made too much fun of them (I kinda did). Problem with that theory is that I have made fun of plenty of bands on this tour i.e. Against Me, the Blackhearts, Anti-Flag, Sherwood, The Acadamy Is, Thursday, Less Than Jake, Rise Against, etc. I have also taken plenty of jabs at Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and Muslims.

I feel I am an equal opportunist when it comes to getting laughs from an easy target. One thing I really try not to do is make fun of bands that I'm not friends with. That*s why two days into the tour, I introduced myself to the Underoath guys and we have been friendly ever since. Of course we have some differences. They tend to not believe in evolution, dinosaurs, reproductive rights, premarital sex, or gay marriage. Some of them don't even like looking at porn (that*s just crazy). The point is, at some point I sat down with most of them and had quite a few discussions about a lot of these issues.

Every talk we had was civil and respectful and no matter how wrong I think a few of those guys are, there were never any hard feelings between us. They*re actually really nice dudes. Maybe on their summer break they could spend some time reading some other books, instead of just the one." - Fat Mike

Still, if Underoath is allowed to spread Christianity, why shouldn't Fat Mike be allowed to talk shit about it?

Under_0ath17
08-02-2006, 02:24 PM
yea i saw it all on fuse...

mugg
08-02-2006, 02:29 PM
It was fucking hilarious. Underoath had a Bible Study Class at Warped, and the dude from NOFX just killed them with jokes.

NOFX is a good punk band. Underoath is a lousy screamo Christian band

RageAgainstTheToyMachine
08-02-2006, 03:03 PM
NOFX are hypocrits.

Punk? My ass.

Punk's purpose is to express yourself boldly and make a statement, and they are going to be whiney little bitches because Underoath held a bible study.

EmericaSktr51
08-02-2006, 03:06 PM
i didnt even know about this until now.

who cares is underoath is a christian screamo band. there still amazing.

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 03:20 PM
From punknews.org:


Since popular Christian hardcore/metal act Underoath dropped off the Warped Tour at the end of the last week, there has been much speculation about the reasons behind it, among the rumours reasons was that NOFX vocalist Fat Mike was somehow involved.

Mike offered us a statement explaining the situation.

"Sorry folks, as much as I do like controversy, there really isn't any to report on this subject. Underoath have left the Warped Tour, and as much as people want to give me credit for that, the truth is they just really needed a break apparently. Some people have suggested that they bailed because I made too much fun of them (I kinda did). Problem with that theory is that I have made fun of plenty of bands on this tour i.e. Against Me, the Blackhearts, Anti-Flag, Sherwood, The Acadamy Is, Thursday, Less Than Jake, Rise Against, etc. I have also taken plenty of jabs at Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and Muslims.

I feel I am an equal opportunist when it comes to getting laughs from an easy target. One thing I really try not to do is make fun of bands that I'm not friends with. That*s why two days into the tour, I introduced myself to the Underoath guys and we have been friendly ever since. Of course we have some differences. They tend to not believe in evolution, dinosaurs, reproductive rights, premarital sex, or gay marriage. Some of them don't even like looking at porn (that*s just crazy). The point is, at some point I sat down with most of them and had quite a few discussions about a lot of these issues.

Every talk we had was civil and respectful and no matter how wrong I think a few of those guys are, there were never any hard feelings between us. They*re actually really nice dudes. Maybe on their summer break they could spend some time reading some other books, instead of just the one." - Fat Mike

Still, if Underoath is allowed to spread Christianity, why shouldn't Fat Mike be allowed to talk shit about it?


they are allowed to but they didnt need to go as far as they did just for fucking attention. they were a good band, many people i knew that liekd them including underOATH now hates NOFX. they have probably lost more fans then they gained from that shit. which is only hurting them

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 03:24 PM
NOFX are hypocrits.

Punk? My ass.

Punk's purpose is to express yourself boldly and make a statement, and they are going to be whiney little bitches because Underoath held a bible study.

yea if you watched the "Bastereds of Young" documentary on fuse. they were talking about Punk music. its about expressiong yourself and your view on politics and shit like that. NOFX complaining over underOATH having a bible study only shows how gay you can be just because a band is more popular then you. haha and if your on NOFX side then try to give reasons why NOFX isnt a bunch of asses (mainly Fat Mike), the only one that has so far is hamburger.

Stealing People's Mail
08-02-2006, 03:48 PM
i'm pretty sure everyone who is 'dissing' on nofx is christian and are only doing it because they made fun of christianaity.

Still, if Underoath is allowed to spread Christianity, why shouldn't Fat Mike be allowed to talk shit about it?
exactly.


Punk's purpose is to express yourself boldly and make a statement, and they are going to be whiney little bitches because Underoath held a bible study.
i may not know the whole story, but aren't they expressing themselves by saying what they did?

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 04:17 PM
i'm pretty sure everyone who is 'dissing' on nofx is christian and are only doing it because they made fun of christianaity.

exactly.


i may not know the whole story, but aren't they expressing themselves by saying what they did?


alot of people dont like how they were say shit about a religion. just because hes some atheist. and they werent expressing htemselves. they were expressing how they think what underOATH is doing is retarded, which doesnt involve them at all. they should have stayed out. its none of there business they need to get a life instead of ruining other bands so they wont have compition. theyre weak

skatrr
08-02-2006, 04:19 PM
No offense to anyone, but come on. A Christian Study thing during Warped? That sounds so gay, and the only one that had the balls to say anything was NOFX.

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 04:22 PM
No offense to anyone, but come on. A Christian Study thing during Warped? That sounds so gay, and the only one that had the balls to say anything was NOFX.

you do realize that MOST bands at warped tour are christian. maybe they dont respresent it in all there music but many are, for example how about likkeeee Armor for Sleep

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 04:25 PM
i even remember Fat Mike even qouting

"There is alot of different Christian Punk, Hardcore, Metalcore, Rock bands on warped this year."

it was on fuse i forget what show i was exactly watching but it was during Warped Weekend

bdc666666
08-02-2006, 04:31 PM
NOFX are hypocrits.

Punk? My ass.

Punk's purpose is to express yourself boldly and make a statement, and they are going to be whiney little bitches because Underoath held a bible study.

you hate alot,...so this problem between NOFX and underoath...when are the nine bullets gonna fly?

skatrr
08-02-2006, 04:33 PM
The rise of the Christian bands!

cornh0lio
08-02-2006, 04:34 PM
I bought a Warped Tour ticket for $30, and sold it for $50.

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 04:35 PM
I bought a Warped Tour ticket for $30, and sold it for $50.

i missed it :'(

RageAgainstTheToyMachine
08-02-2006, 04:39 PM
i'm pretty sure everyone who is 'dissing' on nofx is christian and are only doing it because they made fun of christianaity.

exactly.


i may not know the whole story, but aren't they expressing themselves by saying what they did?


They could have expressed it in a more kinder way, shit they are on tour together they should have had more respect than that.
There is a difference between expressing yourself and bashing and making fun of someone because they had a bible study, thats called being an asshole.

skatrr
08-02-2006, 04:40 PM
Well, I'll agree he was being an asshole about it, but it's still funny as hell.

d-ville skater
08-02-2006, 04:42 PM
They could have expressed it in a more kinder way, shit they are on tour together they should have had more respect than that.
There is a difference between expressing yourself and bashing and making fun of someone because they had a bible study, thats called being an asshole.

:) someone thats smart

Fistful of Satan
08-02-2006, 04:53 PM
hahahaha.... bible study.

Stealing People's Mail
08-02-2006, 05:20 PM
they need to get a life instead of ruining other bands so they wont have compition. theyre weak
i'm pretty sure they weren't doing it so they won't have 'competition'.


There is a difference between expressing yourself and bashing and making fun of someone because they had a bible study, thats called being an asshole.
did you watch that warped tour thing on fuse? he was actually kind of promoting the bible study. if i remember correctly he told every to go to it. he didn't really 'bash' it. all he did was goto it and ask some questions. but i guess he could have done more stuff than they showed on tv.

Emerican skater
08-02-2006, 08:43 PM
nofx was just saying what they wanted to, wtf is wrong with that

so what if it offended a few people, do you leave your friends house if they say anything bad about you, they could have just been messing with you, theres no reason to get offended

that is pretty much what is going on between NoFX and underoath

people do have freedom of speech, and one single action of a band shouldn't mke them any less punk, or drive fans away, if the fans left them for that, then mabey they weren't true fans

Under_0ath17
08-03-2006, 11:23 AM
you do realize that MOST bands at warped tour are christian. maybe they dont respresent it in all there music but many are, for example how about likkeeee Armor for Sleep
ZOMG ARMOR OWNS!!!! yea...im listenin to them right now. Anywayz who cares who got in a fight or whatever if ur gonna bitch about other peoples fights....well then ur stupid. Fight ur own fights.

ToxicSkater
08-03-2006, 11:31 AM
NOFX are hypocrits.

Punk? My ass.

Punk's purpose is to express yourself boldly and make a statement, and they are going to be whiney little bitches because Underoath held a bible study.
I agree.

enjoyskating
08-03-2006, 11:47 AM
i dont like nofx

bdc666666
08-03-2006, 12:21 PM
i dont like nofx

Thast good because they're not that fond of you either

Emerican skater
08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Thast good because they're not that fond of you either


exactly...

RageAgainstTheToyMachine
08-03-2006, 05:04 PM
nofx was just saying what they wanted to, wtf is wrong with that

so what if it offended a few people, do you leave your friends house if they say anything bad about you, they could have just been messing with you, theres no reason to get offended

that is pretty much what is going on between NoFX and underoath

people do have freedom of speech, and one single action of a band shouldn't mke them any less punk, or drive fans away, if the fans left them for that, then mabey they weren't true fans

No one said they didn't have freedom of speech, we just said they were assholes for what they said.