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I skateboardz
07-27-2006, 03:08 PM
Laserflip

that is just a nickname for the so called 360 heelflip, here are some more nicknames you should know, lazor flip, and 36o heel. Just like 360 flips basically nickname wise.

A laser flip is a 360 fs shovit and a heelflip. So what can you bring it down you may ask? Here is the answer you can bring it down stairs and gaps, handrails rare. Anything really you can ollie down or up you just have to have mad skills.

The concept of the laser flip is the skateboarder bends his knees low like right in a medium position unbends his knees and jumps up while hitting the tail and shoving the back foot foot fs 360. Bascily fs is the toe edge of the tail.
Once the skateboarder has done that he slides the front foot off and flicks it straight out casing the board to go 360 degrees fs with a heelflip. Now he catches this baby he looks for the logo side of his skateboard and brings both his feet down above it and waits to hit the ground and impacts by bending his knees once again. He makes sure the logo side he sees is right next the 360 degree mark case no one wants 180 instead of 360. Lets face it 360 anything looks so good.


Foot placement

I like to but my back foot on the tail duh. Now for this one you really want to hang alot of your back-foots heel off the board. Make sure to put your back foots toes on the heel edge case that is what makes it have a good scoop.
For the front foot I like to hang alot of my front foots toe off the toe edge of the board. Keep in mind when I said about the front foot make sure to put the front foot in the middle of the board makes it more easier for me at least.
You can have your front foot next to the front truck blots whatever feels more comfortable.

The pop

Make sure you bend thoughs knees case you cant make anything go in the air with out bending anything skateboarding wise. So start to bend your knees in a medium amount you don't want to bend them to low or to high. Once you are bending your knees lend back a little case the board often fall behind you alot and that should prevent it. So now once you have that down and you have alot of pressure on your back foot unbend thoughs knees and jump as high as you can and make sure to slam that tail down as hard as you can and once you have that down shovit fs really hard I mean really hard case you often get this 180 crap. So it takes alot of time and patience case lets face it your not gonna get this trick in one day you have to build the leg strength to make it go 360 degrees the opposite way you are used to doing it meaning bs. Now while you are shoving the board fs you want to flick with the front foot straight out side ways just like a heelflip and as soon as you have done that jump back a little so you can at least have a chance at catching it 270 or whatever degrees your close to.


Evening it out

Real hard not the easiest thing in the world case your board goes every where when you are trying this trick for the first time. This is kinda hard to explain but I Will try anyway. You want to stay centered in the whole process but you want to lean back a little and don't lean back or lean to far forward case if you do I bet you wont land it any time soon. Don't be scared of this trick you have to commit to it and if done right it should even out for you.

Landing

Hard also I kinda know you wont make it this far when you are first trying this trick but who knows maybe? Bascily wait till you see the logo side appear. It should come around 270 or so and then that is when you slam both your legs down on top of the board. Don't be scared and not land it case it will just take longer and no one wants that. Just keep trying on this trick and once you have caught it you want to just commit and once you have hit the ground bend your knees once again to absorb the impact.






Decks info on how there made







boards

So you need a new deck. Maybe you snapped your last one trying to kickflip the local stair set, maybe you wore the crap out of it skating in a pool, or maybe you just left it out in the rain.No matter how it happened, now you are board less and soon as you can scrape together the cash, you're gonna head down to your local shop and lay it out for a new deck, one you hope will last you many sessions to come. Which do you choose?Its likely the shop will carry up to 25 different brands of boards at any giving time. Thats a lot of sizes, shapes, graphics, and pro models to comb through. Young or old, new skater or fully padded old timer, your gonna rely on your own skateboarding experience to pick a new deck. But how much do you really know about your plank? Could better board knowledge help improve your skating?

wood shop

Think for a second about all you know about what goes on before a deck makes it to the shop wall. You know it comes from a tree duh, somewhere far away, gets chopped up, put back together, painted, put in shops and then ultimately under your feet for some shredding. After thinking about it for a second you realize there there must be alot more involved in the process than that.



If a tree falls does it make a skateboard

Your gonna need a tree. The major brand skateboard found at your local shop was likely born in north America around the great lakes region and is entirely composed of north America hard maple strong impact resistant wood. Hard wood can be grown elsewhere, but then its density ends up far less than that of the trees in the great lakes area, thereby making weaker skateboards. Hard maples growing session is extremely short {summer time} and the rest of the time it grows internally and strengthens. Other varieties of trees have been cut down and tried out for skateboards, but none could withstand the impact of tricks or the wood was to soft for skateboarding. Who likes a soggy board nobody. Hard maples are cut down using a method know as selective harvesting which makes sure the tree is taken when it is between 60 and 80 years old, while leaving the younger trees around it standing. your current skateboard was problem born the same time as your grandparents. Only the lower portion of the tree is skateboard veneer ply quality, the rest of the tree is used for other stuff. You problem have furniture in your home related to somebody's skateboard. Anyway, the wood is divided up some of the veneers {thin layers of wood} are dyed check out the side of the deck of a new deck sometime and the resulting materials are shipped to factories around the world.

To the factory

Now we have got the basic component of skateboard veneers lets get a skateboard made. Each of the veneers are first fed through a glue machine which through on layers of super strong skateboard glue. Now you have problem heard the term cross grain maybe in shop class. The grains of a board are organized to improve strength through out the board. If all the grains are in one direction, the board is more likely to break.
The glue covered veneers are dropped into a mold with preset concave, and then pressed. Cold pressing- the practice of pressing boards at room temperature, is preferred over hot pressing in which the boards are heated. Microwave pressing speeds up the process but allows to much extra moisture to stay in the boards, making them heavy and more likely to warp. After the boards are pressed into the mold, they are pulled out stacked and the curing process begins. As the board cures, it settles into the mold and the glue hardens. Based on the shape chosen, the board is then drilled, cut and sanded to the specifications of that particular shape. The paint is applied via silkscreen or the more common method these days, heat transfer. The board is then sent to its brand or distributer., sold to retail and then put in put in your grubby mitts for some proper shredding.

Note this board guide came from my magazine future skateboard buyers guide but since its not on the INTERNET I had to type all this shit myself so yeah it took a hard time and i am not even done yet.

I skateboardz
07-27-2006, 04:26 PM
Trucks
It doesnt matter how into skateboarding you are. Unless you have a peculair brain and to much time on your hands, youre going to take the easy approch and ride whatever trucks feel good without understainding much besides the width and height. The two most basic and visible traits. My skate buddys and I have a few collective years of skateboarding experice between us, and I have asked around, curious as to how many of them had a deep understanding of the factors that contribute to making trucks react.
I calculated an exact measurement of our truck comprehension, Zero.
I had to talk to the only skater I know who rips and is smart enough to not only understand exactly what makes a truck turn.
In the person I was just talking about patienlty explained every interconnected variable, but my notes slurred into unreadable loops and squiggles when I fell asleep halfway through. Luckly, knowing the sqaure root of pi isnt required to discover which trucks are the right ones for you. When setting up a complete skateboard, especally if its one of your first rides, just rember thats all the components combined create a single unified feeling. Trucks are designed to work together, so dont mix up brands and sizes becase they look cool or your bro busted an axle and wants to unload a single truck on you.

history of trucks
Skateboard trucks began as rollar skates ripped in half and nailed to a plank of wood. According to legend, this was going on as far back as the 1940s. As skateing grew into its own activity rather than offshoot of surfing during the mid 70s its popularity blew up. All sorts of funky and gross truck designs flooded the market. No longer merely rollar skate componets inventors focused on skaters needs like increaded width and wider turning radius. Companys went nuts with innovations, chaos ensued. It was like a riot of truck designs each one trying to solve the varous problems while remaining strong enogth to not to break. There was no universal stantard, and everyother month a new company delcared theyd created the ultimate turning system for skateboards. It was so haywire that most board companys in the 70s didnt pre drill their decks becase nobody knew what kind of trucks a skater would use. Some truck companys had three hole patterns while others had four and another company would have its holes spaced differnly. Skateing fadded to the most embarrassing fad for most america by the early 80s. If you skated, you were considered a loser that was so out of touch with what was cool that you couldnt recognize BMX was the new thing. But at least a few skaters who kept shredding finally found a standardized truck system. Small tweaks to matrial and design constanly occured but never anything too drastic. That lasted nearly a decade untill low profile trucks came along.

rowleydarkslide763
07-28-2006, 02:22 AM
What really is a skateboarder, why do people skate in the first place

Now we all know what a skateboarder is duh he skates but their is so much more than that. I believe what a part of being a so called skateboarder is how skateboarding makes you feel, what it does for you that no other sport or hobby can do. Why I like skateboarding is because you can skateboard anywhere all you got to do is get up take a shower get dressed and just start skateboarding on your street, grass, lolz their is really some pros that actually try to skate on grass but thats not the point the real point is you cant do anything like that with other sports you just don't feel the same way. I joined skateboarding because yes I saw a couple of guys always having fun skateboarding every time I got off the bus and well I tried it out and haven't stop skateboarding ever since. There is also no rules in skateboarding, excluding x-games etc. You can just skate the way you want to you don't have to have a form when running you don't have to worry about how to throw that football right. Thats what makes skateboarding unique from other sports their is so much different styles and skateboarding, Also their is alot more creativity in skateboarding than other sports. What I mean is you always have to follow what the coach tells you in football and well their maybe the coach is creative but your not.


Once you become a skateboarder you see things differently than other people, you tend to look in a different perspective than normal people aka their is this nice set of stairs and normal people just walk up those stairs because they think its a mode of transportation to get to the higher part of the place they are going. We skateboarders look like its a dream people wonder how a set of stairs to a skateboarder is so fun but you have to skate to understand the whole concept of skateboarding. One is progression another is skill we basically find stairs to get better kick flip that 4 and then find another stair set and kick flip a 5 set, but its also fun it might be hard as heck to complete what you are trying to do over that gap, stair set etc but once you do it feels so good and its the best feeling in the world.


When it goes to clothing the skateboarder brand really does not make you a hard core skater. Remember you can do anything you want in skateboarding and to dress differently is no exception I usually skate in some baggy pants and a white dc shirt if not that then khakis and a white t-shirt to tell you the truth I hardly buy skate products anymore beside decks etc. Maybe I buy a couple of skateboard brand t-shirts but I often find myself not caring about wearing skater brand t-shirts and pants. I wear more plain white tees than anything though. So their really is not a dress code for being a skateboarder besides skateboard shoes and thats also what makes skateboarding so cool.


Skateboard shoes are what us real skateboarders wear besides posers, thats what helps us find more skateboarders. Well thats how I find them. We ten to look at other peoples shoes to see if their a skateboarder or not, well I know I do.


So basically its like our own little group aka skateboarders and finding other skateboarders to skate with only makes it better. And that is why I like skateboarding and what a skateboarder truly is.

rowleydarkslide763
07-29-2006, 11:04 AM
Ollie

The Ollie was invented by Alan gelfand, Rodney Mullen was the first to take the Ollie on flat ground. The Ollie is the basis of skateboarding most tricks have the Ollie in them kinda what I mean is this you need to know how to do the Ollie before you can do the kick flip case how are you gonna know how to pop the board and slide your front foot up? You wont so most tricks you need to know how to Ollie.

The highest Ollie that is famous goes to Danny wainwright at a awesome 44. inches or a little bit more somewhere around there. Now the highest Ollie is 50 inches by Jose Marabotto. Switch was Alex something I cant remember he had 40 something I believe inces switch.

You can bring the Ollie down stairs, gaps, ledges and Manuel's everything you can jump up onto you can Ollie it.

The concept of the Ollie is this the skateboarder hits the tail or nose which ever way your back foot is on, now the skateboarder bends hits legs and jumps up and hits the tail with his Blackfoot real hard to make it seem like a popping noise now the skateboarder jumps up while he rolls his front foot up to the blots causing it to stay level. Now the skateboarder is in the air now he just stays in the air then he comes right back down and bends his legs for impact.


Foot placement

Now what I like to do with the the back foot is put it on the tail or nose whatever is on your back foot in the begging. Now put your back foot toes in the middle of the tail maybe closer to the toe edge of the board if you prefer.
You will have some of the back-foots heel of the board if done right it perfectly OK if you don't like the feeling you can move your back foot closer up. I just feel comfortable to doing that.

Now for the front foot I like to put it in the middle of the board toes facing the heel edge you know kinda sideways it makes it easier to Ollie. Make sure to have some of the front foots heel hanging off it makes it easier.



The pop

Pop is the motion of the skateboarder hitting the tail down hard making it seem to go in the air. which means no pop no air at all and we all know you want to go in the air right?

Now what I do to pop the board or if you prefer hit the tail with the back foot is I bend my knees real low not very low put in the middle you cant really do anything standing up if you can it would be useless anyway case it would look ugly anyway. Make sure to have your arms right next to your legs when you are bending your legs. Now unbend the knees and jump up and hit the tail has hard as you can with the back foot casing it to go in the air but remember the harder you hit the tail the higher you will go.


Evening out the board

Now once you have it the board you have to roll the front foot up the blots and this will case you to get a little higher and even you out in the air while you are ollieing.


Landing
Actually really simple just once your in the air just keep your feet on the board and wait till you are about to land then bend your knees once again to absorbe the impact. Now try it rolling.



Kick flip

The kick flip was invented by Rodney Mullen I think it was the first flip trick Rodney did and now look where its at down big stairs, gaps whatever you can get your hands on these days. People have done triple kick flips and doubles maybe even more? You can make this trick go real high just like your Ollie but it takes time and Patience.

Now this is the concept of the kickflip, the skateboarder hits the tail with the back foot while bringing his front foot up the blots and flicking of the concave to the right side for goofy and left for regular. Now the board flips kinda like a barrel and then the skateboarder times it and brings his feet above it and lands it.

Now you can do kick flips on anything you want once you have mastered it here are a few things you can do with the kickflip, gaps, to handrails, Manuel's out of Manuel's stairs and lots more you can also combine a kickflip with a shovit and make a varel flip and a lot more cool things.

Foot placement

Now what I like to do with the the back foot is put it on the tail or nose whatever is on your back foot in the begging. Now put your back foot toes in the middle of the tail maybe closer to the toe edge of the board if you prefer.
You will have some of the back-foots heel of the board if done right it perfectly OK if you don't like the feeling you can move your back foot closer up. I just feel comfortable to doing that. For the front foot I like to put it in the middle toes pointing towards the conner of the nose left conner if your goofy right if your regular. Make sure to have most of the heel hanging off case if you have alot of your front foots heel on the board it makes it harder to flip the board and we don't want that. You can bring the front foot closer to the blots if you feel more comfortable with doing that.

The pop

Same concept you have to bend the knees low like right in the middle so you can make more pressure to hit the tail harder case you need all you can get if your starting to do the kickflip. Once you have unbended your knees and jumped while you hit the tail you are gonna want to roll your front foot up to the nose like normal but now look at where your ankle is now once you have got to the concave flick hard to your right if your goofy and for regular to your left.

Evening it out


Sometimes it comes out kinda crooked like kinda a bit vertical and makes it look really ugly to prevent this don't lean to far back you just want to Ollie flick the board and stay centered don't move at all case most of the time it messes you up and you don't land the trick. But if done right that should prevent it and make it even.


Landing

This is the fun part not really but you get it. To land it you want to know how fast you flick the board case you wont understand what I am about to say. If you are a slow flipper wait till you see the grip tape and slam both your feet on the board. If your a medium flipper wait till you see the primo side of the board and that is where you catch it. Finally if your a fast flipper you want to catch it when you see the logo side come up. Make sure to catch it faster when you are doing it down stairs.

Good luck.

Tom-E
07-29-2006, 12:24 PM
you defenitly wrote a lot, so i skimmed over most of it.

i like what i see, writing on the net needs to be entertaining, "if a tree falls, does it make a skateboard" and other things i saw were subtle and fun to read.

your work was detailed and you dont write about things you dont know about. You went to a good source to find out truck-info...etc

overall i like what i see here

rock-adio
07-29-2006, 01:04 PM
Lazor flip - Lazerflip? Pronouced the same basicly. Not so sure I liked that part of your post.

A77A96
07-29-2006, 08:52 PM
Whoa, that was all over the place. I got the lazerflip thing, but what was with all the seperate posts about trucks and ollies?

jonnyflip122
07-29-2006, 08:58 PM
wow

sk8er8181 the second
07-29-2006, 09:23 PM
Skateboard shoes are what us real skateboarders wear besides posers, thats what helps us find more skateboarders. Well thats how I find them. We ten to look at other peoples shoes to see if their a skateboarder or not, well I know I do.
thats true i always look at ppls shoes to see if they sk8
u shouldve put which decks last longest

Z3R0_SK8R_182
07-29-2006, 09:32 PM
you defenitly wrote a lot, so i skimmed over most of it.

i like what i see, writing on the net needs to be entertaining, "if a tree falls, does it make a skateboard" and other things i saw were subtle and fun to read.

your work was detailed and you dont write about things you dont know about. You went to a good source to find out truck-info...etc

overall i like what i see here

yeah Kudos on the good work

I skateboardz
07-30-2006, 12:53 AM
Thanks guys, and for the person that said why did you skip around, I was just trying to show some other things I can write rather than trick tips.

Tony
07-30-2006, 01:51 AM
umm... Why is the starter of this thread banned? :-|

rowleydarkslide763
07-30-2006, 01:56 AM
No one is banned?

Tony
07-30-2006, 01:57 AM
No one is banned?
Oh, a custom status.

A77A96
07-30-2006, 02:14 AM
lol