Sora1421
02-19-2006, 08:34 AM
Ok this is a guide for The ollie 180's f/s and b/s. I will cover F/S first since it is easier, followed by B/S. I will try my best to make a good guide for them.
Ok lets go!
F/S 180
Feet Placement
Back foot: Ok well the feet placement for these can vary, some people do them with the ball of their foot on the back corner, while others do them in ollie position. I suggest you put it a little more back than an ollie when you first start, then as you get more familiar with them put them in the ollie position for a better pop and more height. But which ever way you choose will work.
Front Foot: The Front foot also vary's from person to person. You and you are looking foard can either have your toes hanging off a bit, or have them in ollie position. Just like the back, either will work but i suggest having your toes hanging off a little bit to get used to the spin, since it spins better. The best way to do these would still probably be in the ollie. Also when people learn these you can move your front foot close to the bolts
Executing the trick
Ok first you should be rolling at a decent speed; not to fast but not too slow. These should NEVER be learned stationary. Do you see that ill underline it NEVER! You shouldnt really learn tricks stationary to begin with let alone anytricks with a 180 in them. For the simple reason that they are harder.
As you are rolling at a pretty good speed wind your shoulders up the oposite direction a good bit. Unwind them and when they become parallel and you are looking forward; pop the 180 and drag your front foot up. When it rotates about 90 from that; you want to use your feet and basicly twist them the rest of the way. What im trying to say is just use your feet and twist, the uper body isnt really needed to spin any more. As you are about to land put weight on the front foot so you dont fall back. Roll away clean
Troubleshooting
#1 I can't spin the whole 180. Help!!!!
This is of course probably the first problem you will have. You probably are not twisting your feet the rest of the way. The winding of the body is only half the trick. You have to just use your feet to push and guide the rest of the way. It's hard to explain but i tried. Practice it
#2 I get the whole 180 but i land in a switch manual(on your back foot after the 180)
Ok this was the biggest problem i had. It was very annoying and made me not try these for a while. What you are probably doing wrong is trying to scoop the 180 to much and leaning back. Stand directly over the board and your about to pop. Dont twist and lean back, twist and stay centerd. Also as your twisting the rest of the way dont lean back either. Finally when your about to land try to put more weight on the front truck.
well i think that's it for f/s
Ok Now for B/S. It is probably a little harder becuase you can't see where your spinning and you have to land backwards rolling in the opposite direction. I suggest you learn f/s first though since they are easier. Now some people learn b/s first and thats fine too. it's whatever you choose
Ok B/S time!
B/S 180
Feet Placement
Front foot:Ok front foot the best place is probabaly pretty much exact same place as you do an ollie..maybe a little closer to the bolts than your ollie but thats it. You can experiment but i don't know anyone who does them any other place. If anything maybe toes even with the edge.
Back foot: Ok the back foot can vary too. You can have your back foot on the the edge on the tail to give it more of a scoop to spin. Although these look a little sloppy compared to the other way. To do them the right way you should have your back foot in the same place as an ollie as well.
Executing the Trick
Ok im going to tell you the right way but you can scoop with your back foot at first to learn them.
Roll at a decent speed first, just like f/s not to fast at first but never stationary. When your feet are ready, twist your upper body the oposite way and unwind. When your shoulders are parallel to the board pop an ollie and drag your front foot up. Once you get about 90 degrees use your back foot to spin the rest of the way and guide it around. Have your weight centerd becuase when you land your going to be rolling backwards.
Troubleshooting
#1 I can't spin the whole 180....GRRR
Yep this is the hardest thing for B/S 180's. Make sure you are rotating your upper body good. And using your back foot to spin the rest of the way around. Also maybe learn how to scoop the back foot first, it will give you the motion you need to try them the right way. It may be a little hard but keep practicing.
I can;t really thing of any other major problems, becuase if you get the full 180 on the b/s's you shoould roll away pretty clean. The only other problem is you might be leaning forward and the board goes behind you when you land. Just remember to keep centerd on the board since your landing backwards.
well that's it i hope this helps, Gp out there and practice practice practice. These arent all that hard to lean but can be frustrating.
remember rate up's are always nice :P
Ok lets go!
F/S 180
Feet Placement
Back foot: Ok well the feet placement for these can vary, some people do them with the ball of their foot on the back corner, while others do them in ollie position. I suggest you put it a little more back than an ollie when you first start, then as you get more familiar with them put them in the ollie position for a better pop and more height. But which ever way you choose will work.
Front Foot: The Front foot also vary's from person to person. You and you are looking foard can either have your toes hanging off a bit, or have them in ollie position. Just like the back, either will work but i suggest having your toes hanging off a little bit to get used to the spin, since it spins better. The best way to do these would still probably be in the ollie. Also when people learn these you can move your front foot close to the bolts
Executing the trick
Ok first you should be rolling at a decent speed; not to fast but not too slow. These should NEVER be learned stationary. Do you see that ill underline it NEVER! You shouldnt really learn tricks stationary to begin with let alone anytricks with a 180 in them. For the simple reason that they are harder.
As you are rolling at a pretty good speed wind your shoulders up the oposite direction a good bit. Unwind them and when they become parallel and you are looking forward; pop the 180 and drag your front foot up. When it rotates about 90 from that; you want to use your feet and basicly twist them the rest of the way. What im trying to say is just use your feet and twist, the uper body isnt really needed to spin any more. As you are about to land put weight on the front foot so you dont fall back. Roll away clean
Troubleshooting
#1 I can't spin the whole 180. Help!!!!
This is of course probably the first problem you will have. You probably are not twisting your feet the rest of the way. The winding of the body is only half the trick. You have to just use your feet to push and guide the rest of the way. It's hard to explain but i tried. Practice it
#2 I get the whole 180 but i land in a switch manual(on your back foot after the 180)
Ok this was the biggest problem i had. It was very annoying and made me not try these for a while. What you are probably doing wrong is trying to scoop the 180 to much and leaning back. Stand directly over the board and your about to pop. Dont twist and lean back, twist and stay centerd. Also as your twisting the rest of the way dont lean back either. Finally when your about to land try to put more weight on the front truck.
well i think that's it for f/s
Ok Now for B/S. It is probably a little harder becuase you can't see where your spinning and you have to land backwards rolling in the opposite direction. I suggest you learn f/s first though since they are easier. Now some people learn b/s first and thats fine too. it's whatever you choose
Ok B/S time!
B/S 180
Feet Placement
Front foot:Ok front foot the best place is probabaly pretty much exact same place as you do an ollie..maybe a little closer to the bolts than your ollie but thats it. You can experiment but i don't know anyone who does them any other place. If anything maybe toes even with the edge.
Back foot: Ok the back foot can vary too. You can have your back foot on the the edge on the tail to give it more of a scoop to spin. Although these look a little sloppy compared to the other way. To do them the right way you should have your back foot in the same place as an ollie as well.
Executing the Trick
Ok im going to tell you the right way but you can scoop with your back foot at first to learn them.
Roll at a decent speed first, just like f/s not to fast at first but never stationary. When your feet are ready, twist your upper body the oposite way and unwind. When your shoulders are parallel to the board pop an ollie and drag your front foot up. Once you get about 90 degrees use your back foot to spin the rest of the way and guide it around. Have your weight centerd becuase when you land your going to be rolling backwards.
Troubleshooting
#1 I can't spin the whole 180....GRRR
Yep this is the hardest thing for B/S 180's. Make sure you are rotating your upper body good. And using your back foot to spin the rest of the way around. Also maybe learn how to scoop the back foot first, it will give you the motion you need to try them the right way. It may be a little hard but keep practicing.
I can;t really thing of any other major problems, becuase if you get the full 180 on the b/s's you shoould roll away pretty clean. The only other problem is you might be leaning forward and the board goes behind you when you land. Just remember to keep centerd on the board since your landing backwards.
well that's it i hope this helps, Gp out there and practice practice practice. These arent all that hard to lean but can be frustrating.
remember rate up's are always nice :P