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skatenorthPA
02-06-2010, 06:17 PM
Not sure if anyone here watches history. It had a program going on about how by turn of the century humans may lived to 1000yrs old. Can you imagine how large the population would be? Think of how much resources you use daily. Eventually you stop using them when you die, now multiply the amount of resources you use x100. The world would be fucked.
theonlysun81
02-06-2010, 06:54 PM
If that was the case, I would literally begin to kill anyone who lived to be past 100 years old. Then argue in court that I had the freedom to kill that person because they were encroaching on the rights of new people to be born and enjoy all of life's pleasures and resources.
jarrell
02-06-2010, 06:57 PM
this thread reminds me of the movie Daybreakers. But yeah I'm pretty sure by the level of advancement we will be able to spread to more places like, space exploration, and underwater sea-labs and shit.
If that was the case, I would literally begin to kill anyone who lived to be past 100 years old. Then argue in court that I had the freedom to kill that person because they were encroaching on the rights of new people to be born and enjoy all of life's pleasures and resources.
couldn't that be applied anywhere. like what about poor people who can't enjoy all of life pleasure because of resources. Shouldn't they be allowed to kill rich people for the pursuit of happiness.
pretty sure no ones gonna be 1000 by the turn of the century
justsoicanusethesearchbar
02-06-2010, 07:27 PM
pretty sure no ones gonna be 1000 by the turn of the century
Seems true and I don't believe it so far but a famous geneticist from Cambridge University said that:
"The 1st Human to Live to 1,000 is Alive Today" (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/12/the-1st-human-to-live-to-1000-is-alive-today-a-galaxy-insight.html) (click that to go to the article).
Here's an older article on the same topic posted on the BBC in 2004:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4003063.stm
skatenorthPA
02-06-2010, 07:33 PM
Yea I saw stuff like that on history. But think about it? Unless ur murdered u may be able to live off of jar grown organs. but ugh, humans seem like such a bad specie of life lol. take take take
Skatenjoi
02-07-2010, 06:36 AM
There are some biologists right now (such as Aubrey De Grey, look him up) who believe that the first people to live to 1000 are already alive
He thinks we have the resources and information to put this plan into action, he says he just needs funding and he can make people live extremely long
I think it literally would change everything about how society works, there are a few main things that make everything work together, and one of those is death, and it has been relatively normal for all of history for the time being
if you throw this out there, and people start living to even something like 200, everything would need to change for it to work
kickflippr
02-07-2010, 10:01 AM
dude that would be freaky. imagine how nasty a 1000 year old person would look.
Iskatehard
02-07-2010, 01:31 PM
I'm willing to bet that by the time a large portion of society begins to live that long... We'll have a much more efficient approach to how we use resources and even what we use as resources.
Also.. For some reason a part of me thinks that it would result in less reproduction. Nowadays people tend to have children during what, like midlate 20s to mid 30s or so? Almost all of human behavior is related to life expectancy it seems, actually. If we're going to be living over 10 times longer, I just don't think we'd be living the same as we are right now..
skatenorthPA
02-07-2010, 01:48 PM
Yea like I think everything we do now would change to like 10x longer maybe. Imagine no sex until your 180 :D legally rofl
Skatenjoi
02-07-2010, 01:54 PM
Yea like I think everything we do now would change to like 10x longer maybe. Imagine no sex until your 180 :D legally rofl
Even though this was kind of a stupid statement, he has a point, if the normal lifespan was 1000, imagine how everything would need to change, like laws
It's mind blowing to think of everything that would need to change
Bleed the Freak
02-07-2010, 01:56 PM
I would kill myself WAY before then.
Iskatehard
02-07-2010, 06:09 PM
It would just take so long for society to adapt to having people living that long... So much so that I almost have a hard time believing it could ever happen. I mean, not because we couldn't exactly figure it out, but yeah.. Shit would just be too different
I wonder how exactly it would work though..
I mean.. People just wouldn't live to be 1000+ years old with their body aging as we do today. You'd spend like 90% of your life bedridden, completely unable to move. I would think that such an age would be made possible rather by simply (well, it's not simple, but you know) slowing the aging process down proportionately. So... We'd slow it down so that rather than taking say 10 years to reach the state of body we do at age 10, it would take 100 years or so. 200 years old would be the "new 20" and such.
But then that sounds sort of stupid.. But I dunno, it just seems like it would be the way it would be done. But though the body aging could be altered, could the aging of the mind be as well? Just doesn't seem like it could be to me.. At least not to such an extent
Skateselect
02-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Imagine how much you'd know...and how many changes you'd witness. an 1000 year old person in history could have watched the middle ages begin and seen the Americas bediscovered
Iskatehard
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
Haha a part of me thinks it would feel the exact same as it does now. Like, people would still think life was too short, and people would still miss out on so much of humanity's overall timeline of events. For some reason I figure when aging is slowed down, overall progression would also be slowed down by the same rate. But I guess there's really no reason to think that
Roboman
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
If you live to 1000, then 95% of your life is as an old person.
Fun.
Skateselect
02-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Haha a part of me thinks it would feel the exact same as it does now. Like, people would still think life was too short, and people would still miss out on so much of humanity's overall timeline of events. For some reason I figure when aging is slowed down, overall progression would also be slowed down by the same rate. But I guess there's really no reason to think that
i think progression would increase. imagine what some of the worlds great thinkers could have accomplished...i cant imagine people like Einstein and Newton and Galileo died thinking they had done all they could....
Skatenjoi
02-08-2010, 11:12 AM
I'm not sure about this, so don't take my word for it, but I think the idea is, it would essentially "freeze" your body in the age that you're currently at, and you stay that way and then you age ridiculously slow
so it would be ideal to freeze yourself around the ages of 25-30, when you're most likely the best looking and feeling of your life
emerica69
02-08-2010, 06:03 PM
that wouldn't be too bad.
i honestly would not mind living for another hundred years or something. but it doesn't matter. i also feel as if progression would move slow and people would still think that life is too short.
fuck living to a thousand though, that would just be stupid.
Occupant
02-20-2010, 07:56 PM
Yea I Unless ur murdered u may be able to live off of jar grown organs.
anyone ever read the house of the scorpion? that's pretty much what happened in the book
SecondImpact
02-20-2010, 07:58 PM
Shit.. I'd kill myself.
Fudopi
02-20-2010, 08:30 PM
just sayin, it's also fairly likely that humans will be able to inhabit a place other then earth by 2100, (international space station foollll)... so it might just work out. not sayin we will, but its a possibility.
graffeedy5
02-20-2010, 09:14 PM
This is of course if WWIII doesn't happen before then and throw the world into a nuclear holocaust.
Iskatehard
02-20-2010, 10:18 PM
Goddamn I really wish I could be alive in a time where we are zipping around space and colonizing around the universe. At least I think so, anyway. I'm sure people from that time period, if it ever comes to exist, will think it would have been much easier and much more simple in days like today.
If humanity is all around the universe and spread up like that.. I don't know.. Where would the sincerity be anymore?
Skatenjoi
02-21-2010, 08:13 AM
Glad this thread was bumped because me and my best friend hung out yesterday, and had one of our pretty long philosophical conversations...and I brought the 1000 year old thing up
We thought of a few things I'm not sure were brought up in this thread
-Because time is all relative to the average expected lifespan, would a day/even a year in an 1000 year lifespan feel like how an hour feels to us?
-Some people change A LOT during their lives (for example "I used to be an alcoholic, now I love jesus!), but anyway, some people could be COMPLETELY different people in intervals during their life
-Would the capacity of the normal human brain be able to handle the ridiculous amount of information that you take in during a 1000 year lifespan? Even 100 years, some people drift off into obscurity/have lived "so much life" and can't handle it.
-Some people around the age of 60-up say that they are "ready to die", they feel like they have lived all they need, they are ready to "move on"...is this only because we know how long our lifespans are? Would people living to 1000 become tired of life by age 100 or so?
just a few topics regarding this topic
and ISkatehard, living a life exploring the universe would be so incredible, thinking about all that we don't know, and what we could know, it's mind boggling
and witnessing it first hand
skatenorthPA
02-21-2010, 08:35 AM
I think before we start expanding onto other planets we need to make sure we don't do to those what we did to this one. We polluted it so badly it can't be fixed. Also when we start to go onto different planets it will be like the black plauge all over again. Think about it, we don't get sick because we are use to the germs on EARTH think about things on mars. It is so fucking hot their anything would need to adapt. Making it harder for us to cure ourselves or clean anything.
edit: also I am glad you used some stuff from this thread irl lol.
Skateselect
02-21-2010, 10:24 AM
Glad this thread was bumped because me and my best friend hung out yesterday, and had one of our pretty long philosophical conversations...and I brought the 1000 year old thing up
We thought of a few things I'm not sure were brought up in this thread
-Because time is all relative to the average expected lifespan, would a day/even a year in an 1000 year lifespan feel like how an hour feels to us?
-Some people change A LOT during their lives (for example "I used to be an alcoholic, now I love jesus!), but anyway, some people could be COMPLETELY different people in intervals during their life
-Would the capacity of the normal human brain be able to handle the ridiculous amount of information that you take in during a 1000 year lifespan? Even 100 years, some people drift off into obscurity/have lived "so much life" and can't handle it.
-Some people around the age of 60-up say that they are "ready to die", they feel like they have lived all they need, they are ready to "move on"...is this only because we know how long our lifespans are? Would people living to 1000 become tired of life by age 100 or so?
just a few topics regarding this topic
and ISkatehard, living a life exploring the universe would be so incredible, thinking about all that we don't know, and what we could know, it's mind boggling
and witnessing it first hand
if people could leave to be 1000, theyd probably have a different outlook. like they could take up new hobbies and stuff because they know that the chances of them dying arent that great at 60ish as they are now.
Iskatehard
02-21-2010, 03:18 PM
I just can't imagine anybody saying they're ready and they've lived a full life. Not at 60, and not at 1000. Maybe that's just me though.. I mean, I just couldn't ever say that. There is always new things for somebody to check out.. How could you ever be ready to go? I think that's just people saying that because really they don't have any other choice
Skatenjoi
02-21-2010, 03:35 PM
I just can't imagine anybody saying they're ready and they've lived a full life. Not at 60, and not at 1000. Maybe that's just me though.. I mean, I just couldn't ever say that. There is always new things for somebody to check out.. How could you ever be ready to go? I think that's just people saying that because really they don't have any other choice
yeah, definitely this
you know it's going to happen so eventually you just have to succumb to it
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