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dayquest
02-05-2010, 07:38 PM
Hey I'm just bored, so I've been thinking about wheels and their shapes.

I'm thinking there is mainly the classic shape (round oval), conical shape (flat mostly, but round on the outside), and "funnel" shape (squarish and slants inward).
Classic: http://www.cartel.fi/kauppa/images/spitfire_classic_white55.jpg
Conical: http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/thumb_8817_rainskates_green_tsunami65mmTN.jpg
http://skateandannoy.com/features/ebay/2008/ebay068/images-big/blackharts329.JPG
Funnel: http://www.tailtap.com/images/wheel_orang_purp.jpg

Then for the wheel thickness/wideness, there is wide, regular, thin, and skinny.


Do you think the shape and thickness matters that much for a wheels? Which ones do you prefer? Thoughts?

ak407
02-05-2010, 07:50 PM
it depends, when i use to skate park alot i used softer wheels to grip better on the flooring and smaller wheels because i didnt have to worry about pebbles and stuff, but now that i skate street i ride thicker and harder wheels.

kertacodude
02-05-2010, 07:52 PM
all the wheels i have are like the classic but shaved down so its like flat if you understand instead of bulging out, i think all bones stfs are like that though

drizzle
02-05-2010, 08:01 PM
there is a difference

i guess the "classic" shape you speak of is an all-purpose shape.

conicals (more like these http://purpleskunkshop.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/powellperalta-minicubic64mm97-2.jpg) are designed to roll over pool coping and such with ease and not get caught up upon re-entry and all that shit. round edges allow easier sliding/less traction

"funnel" wheels as you call them, are designed for maximum grip. square corners grab ahold of surface and dont slide out. thin on the edges to cave in as you turn, like i said, to not slide out. not good on coping. often used on slalom setups. much like the one pictured here-
http://www.skaterbuilt.com/Slalom6.jpg

Silverfish
02-08-2010, 04:26 PM
Wheel shapes totally matter, and the one the OP called "Funnel" is actually pretty much the "Classic" or original. Called a "square edged" wheel in the industry, that design is for traction and not for tricks, pools or coping. There's a version of these known as a "sharp edged" wheel, and that's on the board in the photo linked above.

The two wheels in the first post called "classic" and "conical" are really both just "radiused edge" wheels in different widths and dimension. Even the Bones shown are just an aggressively radiused wheel. The radius reduces traction so you don't get a surprise "bite" and functions differently depending on how wide the tread of the wheel is and how hard the urethane is.

A Conical looks a lot like this:
http://www.bulldogskates.com/images/wheels/shogo_side.jpg or this: http://www.bulldogskates.com/images/wheels/dubside.jpg and is designed so it won't hang up as easily on coping, as noted above.

dayquest
02-09-2010, 04:55 AM
So, there is actually a science behind the wheels shape. It's not just for looks or sheer randomness. lol.

Yeah, that explains why all the street&park wheels have a little outward slant or curve on the corners. Also, that is why the slalom and speedboarders use squarish funnel wheels on their setups.

Thanks for the interesting tidbits of info. That makes more sense now.

grimcity
02-09-2010, 05:32 AM
If anyone's seen the new Tony Trujillio Parkburners... they're crazy... they have a nearly square profile. They look sick. Not sure what the shape would be classified as though... maybe a mutated classic.

dayquest
02-13-2010, 04:21 AM
Yeah, those Trujillo Parkburners tripped me out, too. It's almost square (like spfs), but you can tell the edges are still roundish. Very unique shape for a wheel. Probably should still skate good, I think.

Silverfish
02-19-2010, 12:17 PM
Hey, I just came across this old ad (197-something) with a great set of profiles.

http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=2824&d=1266610606

dayquest
02-20-2010, 01:57 PM
Haha wow those look cool. It's kind of funny how the design of the wheels are still around today. Yeah, right now the single-conical design seems more like a hybrid of the other two.

Scoffman
02-20-2010, 02:08 PM
I've seen a company that created grooves through the track of the wheel so you could pass over rocks and pebbles easier. Sorta lame, but they rode ok

Silverfish
02-21-2010, 10:05 PM
Do you mean Wizards? They were cool-looking and marketed for riding in rain, but weren't anything special at all.

http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=2837&d=1266818704
Note the pre-core vintage. These are yellowed--they were a cleaner blue, originally.