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Shakezoola
08-24-2009, 01:06 AM
Like.
this question fucks with me so much at night when im trying to get to sleep.

I have no clue.

What do you guys think happens?

BakerForLife
08-24-2009, 01:08 AM
Well, being Christian, I believe that when you die, you will be called upon by God for judgement of how you lived your life, and whether you lived in the name of his glory, or didn't. If you have, then you are saved, and have eternal life, if not you burn in Hell.

Fudopi
08-24-2009, 01:17 AM
I stopped caring awhile ago.

Teak
08-24-2009, 01:24 AM
like being asleep without dreaming

Killamangiro
08-24-2009, 03:59 AM
nothing happens

Tardence
08-24-2009, 04:06 AM
Find a dead person, look at it, that's what happens.

swordman540
08-24-2009, 04:09 AM
like being asleep without dreaming
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millerbestmedia
08-24-2009, 04:09 AM
I think that we are born again as someone/something else.
I think that there is a limited amount of people on this earth and we keep cycling through, e.g. I couldve been some caveman that died and was born again as myself. Michael Jackson might be born again as a poodle.

just a random thought.

salvemaster
08-24-2009, 09:47 AM
^ Maybe not so much *just* for humans, cause when you think about it we are all just organisms, yaknow? I think our ideas of heaven and reincarnation are so egocentric to the human species. We're just animals that can reason is all.

I don't think it's so much like a respawn in the Halo sense, more like the recycling of the force of life. Like, our consciousness and personalities won't be recycled, just the force of life that was in us, yaknow?

Skateselect
08-24-2009, 09:51 AM
^ Maybe not so much *just* for humans, cause when you think about it we are all just organisms, yaknow? I think our ideas of heaven and reincarnation are so egocentric to the human species. We're just animals that can reason is all.

I don't think it's so much like a respawn in the Halo sense, more like the recycling of the force of life. Like, our consciousness and personalities won't be recycled, just the force of life that was in us, yaknow?
basically what i think. like you cant and wont know what youve done and who you were in "past lives", you'll just be the same life force fueling a different spirit

Iskatehard
08-24-2009, 11:06 AM
Somebody here said it would probably be just like it was before you were ever born... And that sounds sorta true, yet sorta scary..

I personally think that upon dying, your consciousness (soul) becomes part of the collection of all the other souls that have died. You bring all your knowledge and such into it, and make it all the more better. And as you join the collection, you become it as well.. And you know everything and understand everything that has been known and understood by any piece of the collection..

Or.. If your soul isn't ready, and you can't yet bring what you wanted to it.. You will be reincarnated with hopes of obtaining whatever it is you didn't in your previous life(s)

I EAT BABIES
08-24-2009, 11:21 AM
When you die, you have the most hardcore DMT trip ever for 10 minutes, and in that time, anything can happen. You probably will live out entire lives during that time. I play with the idea of eternally living out alternate lives in alternate universes during those moments right before death, but more realistically, I agree with Socrates, that death is just a dreamless sleep. Nothing to look forward to, but nothing to be afraid of either.

Iskatehard
08-24-2009, 11:25 AM
Complete lack of any sense of awareness?

I sure as hell hope so... Either that, or a conscious state of perfection..

Popwar Pill
08-24-2009, 11:31 AM
When you die, you have the most hardcore DMT trip ever for 10 minutes, and in that time, anything can happen. You probably will live out entire lives during that time. I play with the idea of eternally living out alternate lives in alternate universes during those moments right before death, but more realistically, I agree with Socrates, that death is just a dreamless sleep. Nothing to look forward to, but nothing to be afraid of either.

Haha, I was about to say the same "Trip nuts on DMT"

fudgefudge
08-24-2009, 11:36 AM
I think you just rot in the ground

Norm_MacDonald
08-24-2009, 11:41 AM
like being asleep without dreaming
That or this:



Ghosts, some move on and some stay where they died, "haunting".

Chupacabra.
08-24-2009, 12:00 PM
Nothing...
No way to explain it but you just die.

CTskater94
08-24-2009, 12:32 PM
this shit fucks with me too. but you know you could have a dream that seems to last for hours but you were only asleep for a few minutes? maybe thats what happens at death, only on a completely different scale

funny you ask this, last nite i had trouble sleeping cus of this shit

EdUmacatedd
08-24-2009, 12:36 PM
Somebody here said it would probably be just like it was before you were ever born... And that sounds sorta true, yet sorta scary..

I personally think that upon dying, your consciousness (soul) becomes part of the collection of all the other souls that have died. You bring all your knowledge and such into it, and make it all the more better. And as you join the collection, you become it as well.. And you know everything and understand everything that has been known and understood by any piece of the collection..

Or.. If your soul isn't ready, and you can't yet bring what you wanted to it.. You will be reincarnated with hopes of obtaining whatever it is you didn't in your previous life(s)

datwas me!!11!1! Iskatehard agrees with me!!!! yay

t pudz has arm steez
08-24-2009, 01:33 PM
datwas me!!11!1! Iskatehard agrees with me!!!! yay

that brings up the question how were things like before you were born?

i think like sleep without dreaming or ghosts. must be pretty damn boring either way

DuperScuper
08-24-2009, 01:53 PM
yeah that question bugs the shit outa me too. the way i see it... if you think about it people naturally dont want to think that after death they just cease to exist... so they make up religion that offers this whole life after death thing because no body wants to think that when they die, splat, they dont exist anymore. and shit, i cant even comprehend not existing. but honestly thats what i think happens as of now

Skateselect
08-24-2009, 03:32 PM
yeah that question bugs the shit outa me too. the way i see it... if you think about it people naturally dont want to think that after death they just cease to exist... so they make up religion that offers this whole life after death thing because no body wants to think that when they die, splat, they dont exist anymore. and shit, i cant even comprehend not existing. but honestly thats what i think happens as of now
exactly.

EdUmacatedd
08-24-2009, 03:41 PM
that brings up the question how were things like before you were born?

i think like sleep without dreaming or ghosts. must be pretty damn boring either way

But you don't know you are dreaming or alive (just like how you were before you were born).

Shakezoola
08-24-2009, 03:43 PM
I used to think yeah, you just do nothing. you feel nothing.
but then i like look at myself and im like,
shit that would be really fucking boring.
Haha.

I kind of want some shit to happen.
Like a hardcore dmt trip or someshit.

I dunno. Im an atheist but i cant fucking imagine like not being able to think or do shit. i dont knnow it bugs me.


Like i cant imagine, not thinking or not living.

Fuck hahah.

skater/azn-chick
08-24-2009, 04:00 PM
I think that we are born again as someone/something else.
I think that there is a limited amount of people on this earth and we keep cycling through, e.g. I couldve been some caveman that died and was born again as myself. Michael Jackson might be born again as a poodle.

just a random thought.

This, I think re-encarnation is a good theory. Or we dream forever. I mean if we dreampt forever, then life would be boring.

Shakezoola
08-24-2009, 04:12 PM
like what if i used to be hitler or someshit.
How fucked up would that be.

or if all this shit is a dream
and when we *die* we wake up and its like a virtual reality game and we wake up as someone else in like 3012.and we just keep living our *lives*
Like were some rich buisness man in the future and the game is at a theme park. but its like a whole life.

how fucked is that shit

ZeroOrDie.
08-24-2009, 04:41 PM
like what if i used to be hitler or someshit.
How fucked up would that be.

or if all this shit is a dream
and when we *die* we wake up and its like a virtual reality game and we wake up as someone else in like 3012.and we just keep living our *lives*
Like were some rich buisness man in the future and the game is at a theme park. but its like a whole life.

how fucked is that shit

HOLY SHIT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

i believe this

Killamangiro
08-25-2009, 12:46 AM
^ Maybe not so much *just* for humans, cause when you think about it we are all just organisms, yaknow? I think our ideas of heaven and reincarnation are so egocentric to the human species. We're just animals that can reason is all.

I don't think it's so much like a respawn in the Halo sense, more like the recycling of the force of life. Like, our consciousness and personalities won't be recycled, just the force of life that was in us, yaknow?

agreed.

Imagine what it would be like on the dmt before death, you'd probably learn the meaning of life.

Iskatehard
08-25-2009, 10:00 PM
^ Maybe not so much *just* for humans, cause when you think about it we are all just organisms, yaknow? I think our ideas of heaven and reincarnation are so egocentric to the human species. We're just animals that can reason is all.

I don't think it's so much like a respawn in the Halo sense, more like the recycling of the force of life. Like, our consciousness and personalities won't be recycled, just the force of life that was in us, yaknow?

I believe there is a significant different between humans and other forms of life (animals and plants). Maybe not in terms of matter and cell structure and such.. But in a spiritual sense. It seems that we have the ability to use a form of reason that many other forms of life can't.. I mean.. We can escape nature in ways, while many forms of life can't. (whether that is good or bad is arguable)

I don't really know how to describe it, or how to really try to explain it very well.. But I hope you know what I mean so I don't have to try to go further with explanations.

But yeah, we all are just "organisms".. And on paper, it looks like humans would essentially be the same as any other animal... But we're not. And that's clearly not something to be explained in the same sense you would when discussing "organisms", I think..

And I agree we don't just "respawn".. But.. I do believe that over time, we (our souls) collect certain things and they in ways become part of us. And if we recycle our life, if you will, it will not be completely cleansed of all previous experiences and such.. It's hard to explain, and it's not a major thing that would be incredibly noticeable.. But I think there are things that stick with us.

Sort of brings up questions like.. If we reincarnate as mentioned here.. Will somebody who was bad in one life be more likely to be bad in another? And will a good person likely continue to be good? But honestly, I think those aren't addressing the same context I was speaking of before where I said that some traits stick with us and are a part of our souls completely.. But I guess questions like that can arise fairly easily when thinking about stuff like this, and they might be worth asking/trying to answer.

..EatSleepSkate..
08-25-2009, 10:14 PM
I think you just rot in the ground

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t pudz has arm steez
08-25-2009, 10:32 PM
arent there people who died and got recessitated or whatever and they all have similar stories? i just saw an ad for it on discovery channel

Iskatehard
08-25-2009, 11:14 PM
arent there people who died and got recessitated or whatever and they all have similar stories? i just saw an ad for it on discovery channel

Truth be told, there are a lot of situations like this.. But similar stories? Eh, for the most part, they are pretty different. Some people like to tear them apart and TRY to make similarities, and then use it for an argument.. But really, from what I've read, there have been some incredibly unique experiences, and shit..

I don't think that's really what it is to die.. I think what those people are doing is likely recalling the effects of that mass amount of DMT (as already mentioned earlier in this thread).. And I bet some of it are somewhat like dreams.. You know, you can really only remember certain parts and shit.. And some people likely fill in the "gaps" with their head and shit, and likely end up thinking they seen/felt all this shit that they never really did =\

IF there is an afterlife and such.. I think you would only find it after your soul has left the body, and this state of reality.. It's not like you can leave, and then get pulled back into your life >.>', I wouldn't think. Once your 'soul' leaves your body and this piece of reality, if you will... It goes on and does whatever it is it will do, and nothing can pull it back through to another 'side', if you will..

... Or at least, that's what I would think.. But shit, I guess anything is possible

almostalfredo
08-25-2009, 11:31 PM
Find a dead person, look at it, that's what happens.
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salvemaster
08-26-2009, 10:52 AM
yeah that question bugs the shit outa me too. the way i see it... if you think about it people naturally dont want to think that after death they just cease to exist... so they make up religion that offers this whole life after death thing because no body wants to think that when they die, splat, they dont exist anymore. and shit, i cant even comprehend not existing. but honestly thats what i think happens as of now

Fuck dude i know. I was talking to some people the other day and it was a pretty cool conversation. We were talking about life and all these different philosophical things, and then when it came to death, it seemed like people completely lost sight of reason.

They were talking bout fucking light shows and heaven and limbo n shit, n i couldn't help but just think how completely unnatural that it is. Fuck, there are just so many things wrong with those theories yaknow?

I felt so bad, cause when i suggested a sort of 'spiritual reincarnation' where our 'souls' are recycled instead of our consciousness/physical being, everyone thought i was like some kind of pagan cult guy or something.

I just think we hold spirituality in such a ridiculously high standard, yaknow? Like, life recycling itself is completely amazing and beautiful, but if it doesn't include a God or a pretentious afterlife, then no one wants to hear it.

salvemaster
08-26-2009, 10:54 AM
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Haha, what does the period mean? I prolly sound like a douche, but i see it alot in posts n i just haven't caught on i guess.

Iskatehard
08-26-2009, 10:57 AM
It's really weird. It seems like some religious ideas, no matter how odd or weird they might sound, are embraced as normal, or something. I guess it's just the thing that they are so common among people nowadays... But if those religious ideas weren't as big as they are today.. And you said one of them.. People wouldn't say "of course! That makes perfect sense, it seems so obvious" people would say "man, that doesn't make any fucking sense, and I don't know where the hell you got that from"

edit-

^ The period basically means like.. Whatever the user who posted it quoted.. The quoted statement is what they believe, and they're simply pointing it out as their belief also.

It's basically saying "This is what I think"

naked skater
08-26-2009, 10:58 AM
It's really weird. It seems like some religious ideas, no matter how odd or weird they might sound, are embraced as normal, or something. I guess it's just the thing that they are so common among people nowadays... But if those religious ideas weren't as big as they are today.. And you said one of them.. People wouldn't say "of course! That makes perfect sense, it seems so obvious" people would say "man, that doesn't make any fucking sense, and I don't know where the hell you got that from"

edit-

^ The period basically means like.. Whatever the user who posted it quoted.. The quoted statement is what they believe, and they're simply pointing it out as their belief also.

It's basically saying "This is what I think"

ie flying spaghetti monster.

I EAT BABIES
08-26-2009, 01:43 PM
Haha, I was about to say the same "Trip nuts on DMT"

That's the one thing about dying I look forward to.

stinkingfish
08-26-2009, 01:52 PM
The thing I don't get about the DMT thing is, how would your body Know when to produce it. Like does it just release itself when we are super emotional, or is there someone behind our brians, that push the meltdown button when it's time to call quits.

legit.fo.sho.
08-26-2009, 01:55 PM
well we are energy and energy keeps moving. reincarnation is a good theory but i hope thats not what happens. being a christian id like to believe in heaven but sometimes that isnt easy with so many questions unanswered. ugh im not worried about. just live life to the fullest and see what happens. no need to trip on something uncontrollable

salvemaster
08-26-2009, 05:13 PM
The thing I don't get about the DMT thing is, how would your body Know when to produce it. Like does it just release itself when we are super emotional, or is there someone behind our brians, that push the meltdown button when it's time to call quits.

I think maybe, and this is sorta based on the Mind at Large theory, but maybe when we die it's not so much dmt being released, but that our personal realm of consciousness is exposed to that 'absolute reality' that MAL talks about. Like, only for a couple seconds or whatever, our minds are completely free to interpret everything without sensory limits, yaknow?

Idk, i haven't died yet, haha.

Iskatehard
08-26-2009, 09:17 PM
I suppose the DMT thing would depend on HOW you were to die...

Like.. If it's a very instant process, you probably wont have it.. But if it's sort of drawn out and your body understands it is finishing up, it is likely just another 'process of death'.. Which I can't explain on my own, but you know what I mean. Like how there are sort of "steps" to passing away. I think it's like.. Your vision is first to go, followed by a few other things.. Hearing is among the last things to do.. Shit like that.

salvemaster
08-27-2009, 11:02 AM
^ 'The Tibetan Book of the Dead' i think deals with that type of stuff. I haven't been able to read it or anything, but i guess it's supposed to walk people through death and all the phenomena that follow. I'd be interested to read it, i just can't find it.

UrMomSkatesMongo
08-31-2009, 05:10 PM
is death always bodily death? might we not one day swap bodies as we already do hearts? questions of personal identity loom here. suppose the teleportation of science fiction became real, so that when i want to visit mars a complete molecule-for-molecule scan of my brain is sent to mars and there fed into a suitable synthesized body, which then comes to life complete with all my mental characterisitics and memories, and feeling as though walking from an anaesthetic. the return journey is similar, landing me up either in my old body or in a new one. the complication that my earth brain might survive the scan and continue normally on earth without disintergrating or being deep frozen probably makes us say the martian me is a mere duplicate so that I die whenever my earth body perishes. but this takes us towards our second question: suppose the scanning does destroy my earth-body; why should i mind, since all my projexts and memories will continue? if such travel became common, but with just one duplicate of me existing at any time, public life could continue as now. might we not evetually accept the situation, just as we accept that the me and that will wake tomorrow is the the same or as hood as the me that falls asleep or dies tonight? perhaps i want my non material soul to survive. but why should that be tried to the mody? why would it not be teleported.

perhaps it is unclear what counts as surviving, but there are further problems too. why do we want to survive, or fear annihilation, since, as someone said, 'where death is i am not; where i am death is not; so we never meet? is it an irrational fear, developed by evolution-- though evolution, here as in other cases, could only account for its development and not for its apppearance in the first place? or is annihilation a real deprivation, so that the fear of it is rational enough? arguments suggest that the fear of death is irrational because death is something we cannot experience, but if it is rational to fear the loss of what is valuable this argument may not work, for it can be argued that experience are not, and indeed cannot be, the only things of value or disvalue. a related question is why we about future non existence but not about past non existence. fear it is ture, concerns only the future, but we do not seem to regret those past aeons.


is the thought of everlasting life any disconcerting?

Gtown
08-31-2009, 05:20 PM
its a long dream

K 3 R R Y
08-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Our souls get absorbed into the lifestream, the lifestream is what causes this planet to run.

Skate Faster!
08-31-2009, 05:46 PM
Our souls get absorbed into the lifestream, the lifestream is what causes this planet to run.

The Lifestream. That's what we call the river of life that
circles our planet, giving life to the world and everything in it.
The Shin-Ra Electric Power Company discovered a way to use the
Lifestream as an energy source. Because of Shin-Ra's energy, we were
able to live very comfortable lives. But wasn't that because we were
taking away from the planet's life? A lot of people thought so.

Shin-Ra used their power to stop anyone who got in their way. Shin-Ra
had a special group of warriors called "SOLDIER." And all of the
SOLDIERs had Jenova Cells put inside of them. Jenova was a calamity
that fell from the sky a long, long time ago ... and tried to destroy
the planet.

Anyway, there was one SOLDIER named Sephiroth, who was better than
the rest. But when he found out about the terrible experiments that
made him he began to hate Shin-Ra. And then, over time, he began to
hate everything. Shin-Ra and the people against them. Sephiroth, who
hated the Planet so much that he wanted to make it go away. And the
people who tried to stop him.

There were a lot of battles. For every battle, there was more
sadness; someone I love went back to the Lifestream too. And then,
it came -- the chosen day. In the end, the planet itself had to
make the battles stop for good. The planet used the Lifestream as a
weapon, and when it burst out of the earth ... all the fighting, all
the grief and sadness ... everything was washed away.

"Sadness was the price to see it end." It's been two years since they
told me that.

skater fo ever
08-31-2009, 05:50 PM
Heaven or hell homie.
you decide.

adude113
08-31-2009, 06:07 PM
I believe there is a significant different between humans and other forms of life (animals and plants). Maybe not in terms of matter and cell structure and such.. But in a spiritual sense. It seems that we have the ability to use a form of reason that many other forms of life can't.. I mean.. We can escape nature in ways, while many forms of life can't. (whether that is good or bad is arguable)

I don't really know how to describe it, or how to really try to explain it very well.. But I hope you know what I mean so I don't have to try to go further with explanations.

But yeah, we all are just "organisms".. And on paper, it looks like humans would essentially be the same as any other animal... But we're not. And that's clearly not something to be explained in the same sense you would when discussing "organisms", I think..
This I agree with.
And I agree we don't just "respawn".. But.. I do believe that over time, we (our souls) collect certain things and they in ways become part of us. And if we recycle our life, if you will, it will not be completely cleansed of all previous experiences and such.. It's hard to explain, and it's not a major thing that would be incredibly noticeable.. But I think there are things that stick with us.
This I do not.

WhiteTrash
09-01-2009, 02:56 AM
like being asleep without dreaming

You've got it. In a way it terrifies me that I won't be able to enjoy the simple things in life like music, and visions of great views, and good feelings, but I won't know I'm not experiencing it so I guess it's only now when I think about it, It bothers me, no matter how good of a life I live, I guess I'm still left wanting to do more because I feel I should be able to..or something like that haha

skaterbrit
09-01-2009, 06:12 AM
my view is the same as teaks

basically eternal nothingness

UrMomSkatesMongo
09-01-2009, 05:33 PM
we could still be alive in a way. i think that its possible that our minds stay with us, we just lose our bodies. but without our bodies, wed have no senses, which would mean we couldnt exactly think. and it would fucking blow if we could still think...

salvemaster
09-02-2009, 05:47 PM
^ Yeah no, idk how realistic 'eternal life' after death is or anything. I mean, it just seems like, we spend like 70 years here on earth, but when we die, we spend billions upon billions of years buried in a senseless limbo? That just doesn't roll with me.

Even spending eternity in heaven, eternity is a fucking long time. We're talking googleplexes of years for the rest of infinite. I mean, i don't wanna sound like a douche, but i'd get sick of Jesus after the first couple trillion years i'd think.

iamtheyeti
09-02-2009, 07:57 PM
reincarnation

ruckus.
09-05-2009, 08:53 PM
I think that after death it's just...like nothing ever existed. Black. However, I'm pretty sure that there's some scientific thing that's all about atoms being recycled in nature. They say that human beings have atoms in them from dinosaurs and stuff, that the matter/energy or whatever just transferred on.

adude113
09-05-2009, 08:57 PM
^lol that reminds of The Lion King. The Circle of Life haha

K 3 R R Y
09-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Your dead body rots of course.
there is no heaven or hell.

Iskatehard
09-05-2009, 11:25 PM
Your dead body rots of course.
there is no heaven or hell.

... It's not like those are the only possibilities to even consider.

I don't think there is really a heaven or hell.. But I don't think that means absolute nothingness. I really do think there is something more to us..

I think we continue to exist.. But we do so in a new form of reality, if you will...

Skate Faster!
09-05-2009, 11:32 PM
You start a new game, I usually choose a different type starter.

Big D
09-05-2009, 11:48 PM
lol. that reminds me of when my dad's uncle died. My dad's cousin at the wake was talking to me, and he's like "LOL, gameover! Too bad the reset button is broken!" I'm like wow, that's your dad you prick. and you're like, 40 years old. I lol'd though.

I think your soul just floats around and chills until it decides to thrust its energy into something else.

Iskatehard
09-06-2009, 12:27 AM
lol. that reminds me of when my dad's uncle died. My dad's cousin at the wake was talking to me, and he's like "LOL, gameover! Too bad the reset button is broken!" I'm like wow, that's your dad you prick. and you're like, 40 years old. I lol'd though.

I think your soul just floats around and chills until it decides to thrust its energy into something else.

That's pretty sketchy shit to say.. But I mean, I dunno.. Maybe he was trying to be a bit humorous about it just because he thought it might make it easier for him to cope.

JustGoSkate!
09-06-2009, 02:30 AM
After death, nothing happens because all of your organs stop working and your body slowly decays (unless its cremated).

you cease to exist and thats that. end of story.

Skatenjoi
09-16-2009, 04:27 PM
Like.
this question fucks with me so much at night when im trying to get to sleep.

I have no clue.

What do you guys think happens?

When I was much younger, I had a phobia of death and I couldn't sleep about it
it tore me up for years

but the way I see it, death is being completely and forever unconcious
if you try to think about how this will be, you have a hard time and feel stressed out on the thought, I believe we are not supposed to understand complete unconciousness, it is so seperate from what we experience in our time being alive
it is sort of depressing, but if you think about it, it doesn't really matter, you won't even know what hit you...

Communist Monkey
09-16-2009, 04:34 PM
I think you get reincarnated into another human, with the same personality and concience (your the same person) but you forget your past life. You reincarnate until you truely understand life (or something pretty and cheesy like that) and then you go to heaven.

salvemaster
09-16-2009, 04:45 PM
^ That just seems so contrived to me. Just so pretensions, feel-good, unnatural, egocentric, introverted, w/e you wanna call it. We're just fucking mammals man, spiritually we're no different than a rat. It's the same unified force of life that dictates all living things, so why would there be this whole reincarnation game for humans?

Way i see it is that death is as natural as anything you see n hear n touch n feel n taste. We expect so much from spirituality like light shows and heaven and pretty colors and saviors and messiahs n shit that it become more of like a vehicle for our ideals, yaknow?

When you die, the life force that your physical cell occupied will just recycle itself, distribute itself, and just continue supporting subsistence. There are no light shows, the only magic in life is reality and the only magic in death is death, if there are no spell casting omniscient messiahs in life, then why would we expect that much from death?

Communist Monkey
09-16-2009, 04:47 PM
^
I believe we're reincarnated into animals too, because I think theres only a limited living force in the world (one species goes extinct another blossems)

It's was I think, thats what the thread is about.

I dont see any magic in death, because you dont recall the previous life you will never know if reincarnation is true or not.

Besides dont you find it fasicating that a series of cells can manifest a concience? Most other organisms behave purely on instinct, and I think mammals are the only ones with conciences.

And if we are no different than other mammals then why do we discriminate eachother? Why are we typing on a computer? Why aren't rats typing, why are dogs loyal to their owner based on how the owner treats them, dogs never discriminate based on appearance even withing their own species. But for example packs of wolves shun a member that has betrayed the pack.

salvemaster
09-16-2009, 05:08 PM
We discriminate because we have observed and retained more information regarding the world than any animal. We are able to process instinct on higher levels of reason, which has led us to the observation of morality.

From there, it's just emotion that separates us from the instinctual nature of animals, yaknow? Like, discrimination is just envy and greed. Rats would be able to feel this too, but their brains are about 1/100 the size of ours, and so instinct is prolly all they can interpret.

Communist Monkey
09-16-2009, 05:13 PM
We discriminate because we have observed and retained more information regarding the world than any animal. We are able to process instinct on higher levels of reason, which has led us to the observation of morality.

From there, it's just emotion that separates us from the instinctual nature of animals, yaknow? Like, discrimination is just envy and greed. Rats would be able to feel this too, but their brains are about 1/100 the size of ours, and so instinct is prolly all they can interpret.
Yea I guess, so your saying because we record history and we learn of out ancestors we develop greed and discrimination?

You emotions comment also made me remember, we're still the only mammal known that our eyes tear when sad

baker_skater
09-16-2009, 05:18 PM
Heaven or hell.

Skatenjoi
09-16-2009, 05:23 PM
The only reason animals don't go around praising "god" or worrying about the afterlife is because their brains don't have the capacity of taking in information like this, they just rely on basic survival, of course
Humans, being superior in intelligence compared to other species, have made it so we can be comforted in death by an all seeing, all loving being, we call "god"
In some ways, I believe the Christian God and others were made up as a way to coax yourself into believing that death isn't so bad, among other reasons for the creation of a god figure, that I will not get in to,
there is a point in everyone's life where they are afraid of death, or unsure, the god figure in the human mind makes you believe that if you follow a set of rules, you shall be rewarded forever, causing you to be unafraid of death