What Do You Consider the Main Flaws of Society?

[Iskatehard]

Alright, alright.. I know this is about as generic as a question can get.. But hell, as unoriginal as it may be, it is still something that I think people ask themselves eventually.

So yeah, in me asking this question.. I'm not asking you to think of something you haven't previously, of course.. But eh, it seems sort of rare that we can simply just say what we think in this sense.. At least, in a fashion so straight-forward.

So yeah.. Society isn't perfect.. But what are the biggest problem(s) of it? You can explain as many as you feel needed.

I'll answer later after this thread becomes more set up

[drowning_fish]

People suck.

To be a little more specific - not a lot of people seem to understand there are other people - we're (at least in America, and well, actually most people from most countries I've seen) a me-based culture, for the most part. Which is normal but it sucks.

[Iskatehard]

One of the things about society.. That I'd actually be bold enough to out and out say "That's wrong..." is the general idea of what "success" is.

Seems like people are so dead set on representing themselves with previous financial and job achievements and shit.

I mean.. A guy can be in perfect health, have an amazing family.. And be well off... But can fuck up somewhere with his job or money and shit.. And think he's a failure.

And you can look at some guy sleeping on a street.. Homeless.. And instantly consider them a failure. Somebody asks you for some spare change and it's just like "Get a fucking job, bum" Like, by them being in the shape they are, they're somehow less important and their needs/wants are less important than that of your average 9 to 5 guy. I fucking would dare say the way some people with money view those without money as a sort of form of profiling, or some shit. I understand being poor isn't a race, but for best understanding, I'd be willing to call it racism (again, not specifically racism, just for the sake of discussion. I dunno a better word to use at the moment). That's fucked up, I think

Heh, surely I don't need to go into much more detail.. As everybody is familiar with it. And I mean, I can understand some pride being taken in working hard and making a lot of money and shit.. But I don't think that's what "success" is really all about. I mean.. I remember a while back my dad lost his job.. We had a big house and shit, and lost it because we couldn't afford it any more. Now, of course he's all tore up and shit emotionally..

.. And eh.. While I understood why he was upset, I couldn't stand to sit and listen to him saying some of the stuff he was. I remember asking a few questions and he looked at me and was like "I'm a failure..." and I just got so pissed. It's fucking sketch to see somebody submitting, if you will, to such a fucking shallow sense of accomplishment. I strongly think a man with a nice job and massive house can still be a failure, and I strongly believe a man sleeping on a street can ultimately be a success.

[millerbestmedia]

The amount of rank people in society.

People wo want to fight, people who want to steal, people who want to scare, people who stereoptype. There's so many and everyone does it to a degree. Sure, we might think its harmless to diss a gimp at school, but when we get dissed by someone on the street for holding a skateboard, we dont think its harmless (depending on the scale).

[PatrickGB]

My opinion on the main flaw of society is how gays are treated in the world. Ever since gay became an insult more and more people just hate queers I don't understand.I understand if people think that because of religion but when people aren't even religious it's just stupid. If your wondering no I am not gay.

[Iskatehard]

My opinion on the main flaw of society is how gays are treated in the world. Ever since gay became an insult more and more people just hate queers I don't understand.I understand if people think that because of religion but when people aren't even religious it's just stupid. If your wondering no I am not gay.

I have to say, I do agree with you. Odd, as I just watched one of those TV commercials where it's telling people not to call something "gay".. Y'know, with the ending that's like "Understand what you're saying. Cut it out!"

It really is a hateful thing to do. And I know, I know... We say it, but then we're like "Well, I don't mean it in terms of homosexuality.".. And eh, I can understand the idea that has become quite flexible, and can mean a few different things depending on the context..

But even if that IS in fact the case, that doesn't justify that it is essentially hateful. I've personally tried to make it a point to myself to stop using it in a derogatory way, but I admit I still slip up once in a while..

[PatrickGB]

Yes I still call people gay but I don't mean homosexual and then when I ask my friends what they mean they arn't the smartest bunch so they take it literally. Actully most people to whether they are stupid or not.

[readmyname]

Greed and the love of power.

[WhiteTrash]

Greed and the love of power.

Greed is a big player in the game and I hate it.

[stinkingfish]

The morality of society is based of prearranged beliefs of good and evil. Everyone simply believing in what society believes in good. None wants to evaluate beneficial and what is useless. Instead we just believe in what authority wants us to believe because the risk of deviating from what is accepted is being a outcast.

[PartyMoshSkate]

When people act the way people WANT them to(like SB-C, for example). People wverywhere try to hard to be random/hardasses/br00tal/different when if you ARE really any of those things, you should just BE YOURSELF.

[theonlysun81]

People care too much. Plain and simple. People care too much about the shit they have. They care too much about what you do and how you do it. They care too much about rules and shit. If everyone relaxed a bit and didn't care as much everyone would be happier.

[Skateselect]

i think in american society arrogance is a big contributor to problems in society. people refuse to admit theyre wrong and get into completely worthless arguments. arrogance and ignorance can also go hand in hand. i was in a car on the highway today, and the amount of asshole things i saw amazed me. so yeah, my vote is general arrogance and ignorance

[drowning_fish]

People care too much. Plain and simple. People care too much about the shit they have. They care too much about what you do and how you do it. They care too much about rules and shit. If everyone relaxed a bit and didn't care as much everyone would be happier.

If people didn't care they wouldn't be happier, they just wouldn't care.

[naked skater]

Closeminded people, ignorance, and greed.

[Iskatehard]

Haha.. Oddly enough.. The user jdledzeppelin44 sent me an article the other day on major flaws of society.

I dunno if I made this thread before or after I got that message... But ha, it's weird I made this thread and had that article sent to me at the same time, as they're so closely related...

But shit, I'm rambling now.

Anyway... I want to post the link he sent me.

http://www.eoni.com/~visionquest/library/major.html

Mainly because the last bit of the link. Reason number 5... Probably THE biggest flaw overall with humanity/society.

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ignorance

Really?

Haha, this might sound stupid.. Because there are a million ways to take the word "ignorance".. And really, it's bad in some situations and great in others... I think anyway.

But if I may ask, what sense of ignorance do you speak of?

I ask this because it seems that in general those who are more "ignorant" are more happy overall, as well as less violent. Of course, I know there are some very sad and very dangerous ignorant people out there... But yeah, what sort of ignorance are you referring to?

[MRCK]

Educational systems are very rudimentary in my opinion, or at least badly organized so that those who might need it the most can't benefit from them fully. Overall I think the people aren't provided with enough explanations about why the world is what it is in its current state, and that many social incidents of all kinds originate from individuals not understanding why certain rules are in place, which only leads them to blatantly ignore them (I've observed that the human mind seems to need a reason it acknowledges as legitimate in order to agree to abide by certain rules). If educational systems were better thought-out I feel that we would have to resort to repression less often.

Overall I also think that we take too much pride in what we have built of society now that it's somewhat secure for most of us occidentals, and not enough in what we would still have to build of it in order to enhance it for more of our people to be able to live a steady life.

[Chupacabra.]

People are to uptight and to into other people's business.

[naked skater]

Haha.. Oddly enough.. The user jdledzeppelin44 sent me an article the other day on major flaws of society.

I dunno if I made this thread before or after I got that message... But ha, it's weird I made this thread and had that article sent to me at the same time, as they're so closely related...

But shit, I'm rambling now.

Anyway... I want to post the link he sent me.

http://www.eoni.com/~visionquest/library/major.html

Mainly because the last bit of the link. Reason number 5... Probably THE biggest flaw overall with humanity/society.

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Really?

Haha, this might sound stupid.. Because there are a million ways to take the word "ignorance".. And really, it's bad in some situations and great in others... I think anyway.

But if I may ask, what sense of ignorance do you speak of?

I ask this because it seems that in general those who are more "ignorant" are more happy overall, as well as less violent. Of course, I know there are some very sad and very dangerous ignorant people out there... But yeah, what sort of ignorance are you referring to?

I mean ignorance as in people who are happy with how things are but don't really see how things are. Ignorant people are happy with mediocrity and sub par standard of living. I think everyone should try to understand things the way they truly are. I don't know how things are but I try by reading.

Another flaw is..

this is the age of information but no one seems to notice it.

[salvemaster]

The inability of the majority to accept discrepancy. We make our decisions based on others', and therefore the majority is inevitably aware of itself. And so even though the majority is off base half the time, we believe so dearly in its perfection that we will fight to defend it.

That's why we went into Iraq for 3 years, right?

[DVS_skater1]

people still trying to use race as the cause of their problems.

sometimes, race truly is an issue. but sometimes its the only excuse people have. i was at a skate competition and i was 1/2 black guys in the intermediate heat. neither of us made it into the final round. the other black guy comes up to me and is like "this is bull. we didn't make it because we're black. thats all it is man. but see all those white boys made it." i just looked at him and skated off.. it had nothing to do with race. the fact was that neither of us was consistent.. but he felt race was the reason. its lame honestly. its time to get past the issue and move on.

i guess that falls in line with ignorance?

[fudgefudge]

Greed and Ignorance

[Shred-Z]

Greed and selfishness. I don't feel like explaining myself too much. But pretty much, most people are stupid fucks that think their needs are more important than anyone elses, and that in turn screws people over.

[Fudopi]

I don't know.

when people ask fuckin huge questions like this, I never know.

I'm just a 14 year old kid from Detroit... a little white speck on a concrete street on a relatively small blue planet that feels huge to us.

In other words, I don't give a damn what the most fucked up part is, it's not like anybody could do anything about it. As long as when I'm older I make it to the top of the little order of things, I'm good.

[stinkingfish]

YouTube - Aspirational tv - Charlie Brooker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59OJ17raqWw)

[Vivica]

I'm going to go against what almost everybody has said and say... This is really 2 questions.
You have to first consider the flawed nature of the human condition, and then examine the flaws in society itself.

On a human level. we're greedy and self-involved.
On a social level, our main problems are ignorance and greed, all other problems with society can be boiled down to these 2 issues.
Many would argue economics and our economic system itself is the biggest flaw, but i consider quite the opposite, capitalism does not have to automatically mean a huge rich/poor divide, greed is the sole cause of that.



...I guess my real answer, after all that, comes back to - ignorance, on many levels.

[Ezio]

dissatisfaction!

for example, a guy who works all day to support his family will get bitched at for not being home enough even though he's supporting the family well financially. the guy who doesn't have a job isn't good enough because he's not making money even though he's raising his children very well. the guy who doesn't have stable jobs isn't good enough either because his wife will end up wanting someone who is more...um, stable. but the "perfect" man has a great job, is home enough, and is raising his kids well. but he'll get divorced because their marriage is getting monotonous.

or what about small relationships between kids...girls go out with the bad guys but will dump them eventually because they grow up and realize that being treated like shit isn't so great. they then decide to go out with a nice guy who is inevitably dumped because he's TOO nice. the girl goes back to square one

or the weather, lol. it's always too hot or cold or windy and shit

edit: then again, i suppose that dissatisfaction can be a great thing, too

i mean that nothing would be invented if we were satisfied with what we had

[skate___board]

In america, its the education and the media.

[Iskatehard]

In america, its the education and the media.

Mm >.>'.. I am pretty sure that society is so.. Together, if you will.. That the deep down flaws and such aren't really an aspect of one's nationality..

I mean.. I understand that there are some significant differences between some nations.. But I would say that if you're seeing a problem in one country, you'll likely see it in many others.

That all being said.. The education and media in America (as broad as that may sound..) does have some sketchy parts... But at the same time that's pretty much the truth for all nations.

Fuck.. I understand American media can really get biased at times... Er.. Most of the time.. But that's really the case everywhere, I'd say.

[readmyname]

Apathy is another big one. People standing by while atrocities happen, blindly following orders. People should always question authority.

[salvemaster]

Ok, i came up with a new one that kinda covers all of these. Greed. That covers arrogance, lust, ignorance, hatred, n pretty much everything else really.

Shit i sound like Siddhartha. Is that right? I'm not sure who it was that thought abolishing greed would abolish all other problems.

[The Sinistral]

Greed is what got us into the great recession, so I'm going with greed

[Fudopi]

Apathy is another big one. People standing by while atrocities happen, blindly following orders. People should always question authority.

I agree with this too.

I remember when I was a kid I used to get so fuckin pissed when my mom would tell me to do something, I'd ask why, and she says "cause I said so"

If the president tells you to stick a bug zapper in your vagina will you do it just because he says so?

[Marevix]

The primary flaw in society is that we don't have a roomful of top-notch kush in every household. Then nobody would give a fuck about anything.

[codycantskate]

humanitys biggest flaw is humanity itself

[t pudz has arm steez]

The primary flaw in society is that we don't have a roomful of top-notch kush in every household. Then nobody would give a fuck about anything.

word.

and discrimination towards gays is pretty ridiculous. i heard this quote somewhere "when killing a man makes you more of a man and loving a man makes you less of a man its time to rethink manhood"

idk society is pretty fucked up, too many flaws