Could our mind control us?

[bubbleboy]

Could our mind be like, already laying out our life, already knowing our descisions, like, one step ahead of us at all times? Like, you grow up to be very gifted in math and science, but when you were born, your mind already wanted that, and controlled you, by giving you the ability to pick up the topics fast?

Or in the case of you deciding you don't like something, it was your mind trying to give you the experience of something?

What I'm getting at is this.

I've met with my best friends mother a few times after he had died. We spoke a bit about him, why he may have done it, things such as that.

She said something though, that has kind of stuck with me. He had an older sister, who always seemed crazy, she was very sensitive, would have days where she was just super happy, and then days where she would cry because he wouldn't go with her to go get gas right up the road. She has been diagnosed bi-polar now, which somewhat explains it.

When I heard his parents got a divorce in 2008, I never worried about him, I worried about her, after all, she was essentially my older sister. However, she seemed alright about it, she went to counseling, he didn't. His mother, when we spoke, had said something along the lines of this:

Maybe he did it to protect her. He was always protecting her, watching out for her, he was the man in the house. He wouldnt let any harm come to her. Maybe by doing what he did, he took away the power for her to do it, and was his way of saving her. He had lived his life to the extent he needed to, and it was his time to give his sister that one last bit of protection.

While at the time, I thought they were lovely things to say, I didn't really think much about it. But now, as I sit and think, it almost makes sense. He always told us how happy he was when he learned she was moving out, but I know he loved her, and that he really enjoyed her most of the time, and indeed, would protect his family.

So what if, your mind controls you, and has it all planned out. Like, somehow, it knows who we will interact with, it knows how we will feel, etc. What if his mind was what possessed him to kill himself, to become a martyr in a sense for his sister, to save her?

He was a very thoughtful person, he didn't make a decision without thoroughly thinking it out. It was reported he had not cried before doing it, he knew it was what he wanted.

I don't know, it's just a thought, about how we could be making our own choices, but choices that our own minds have already laid out for us, and our physical body, and life, is just kind of a way for our minds to work out their ideas and thoughts.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I think what you're talking about are first instincts. What could easily happen, and then thinking it over to make sure there are no holes in the first instinct. I think that's what problem solving is all about, so to speak.

[Iskatehard]

That's a really interesting thought you have, because it closely seems to relate to something my mother has always told me..

While my mother is a significant source which I end up using in forming my own ideas.. This one is a bit odd and I can only really explain what she believes, and can't say much about it on my own...

Anyway. She is very spiritual, though not so religious. She believes we have a "soul" which is what makes a "consciousness". She also believes that the living moments we have here are in for the sake of experiencing and learning firsthand.

That being the case.. Our "souls" oftentimes will sort of map out the life it plans to be, in order to best try to learn whatever it is it wants to learns. In doing so, it might communicate with other souls in seeking help on their educational driven journey.

And now, the rest I will say again, is not my personal response to your specific situation. But what my mother would tell you is:

We act by plans. We choose to do what we do.. But not exactly at the time we do it, but before we live. There are really no mistakes.. And there are really no accidents.

Your friend, in their "soul", was well aware how they planned on leaving this Earth and what he wanted to achieve before hand. To particular thing his soul wanted to experience or learn, or help another in achieving, as achieved and he was content with what he had learned. Thus, finding it would be best to leave and perhaps focus on something different, or trying to help another soul in "planning" out so they might learn something similar.

The soul is the student, and this world and our bodies are the classroom, if you will. And in a way, your friend sort of "graduated" in terms.. Sorry, I do suck at wording examples like that, shit.

As for what it is your friend had achieved... Who knows? You wont, and his family probably wont. His significance will not be seen directly, but it is in fact a key element in something.. I just couldn't tell what..

Now I'll start being a little more driven by my own personal ideas, and not so much trying to speak for my mother..

I really know it sucks to lose somebody important to you. And no matter how you think about it, it really doesn't make it better at the time... But by deciding to depart at a relatively young age, it means your friend was indeed content in himself. He knew everything he could ever want to know, and he had felt all he could ever hope to feel. Perhaps before doing that act... Aside from understanding those close would be sad.. He very well could have felt the most powerful sense of satisfaction and accomplishment possible... And while it doesn't make things good or better.. I think that's worth admiring in ways..


And.. I mean.. I don't know if my mother is really right in her spiritual belief.. But she really has complete faith in it, and that alone makes me feel that there has to be something to it. It's one of the most sincere ideas I've ever been proposed, really...

And I strongly believe that life isn't as introverted as it seems sometimes.. While we might live to learn, we also live to help and teach others.. And I'd be willing to bet that's what your friend did, and what he taught people will last longer than people might ever expect. And I believe that if we really are here for our souls to "grow", and our body is mere vessel.. Or hell, even if that's not the case.. People really do live to let other people shine, and people really do live to make others free, in ways.. And your friend must have done that.

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And if you want to look at what your friend did for people, and what his cause was... I don't know if you could really find it, as I said before.. But you seem to be looking at it right, maybe.. I mean, shit, I don't know. He really could have helped his sister and protected her.

But at the same time.. I wouldn't think that would be the only act of himself that is worth noting.. I'd say he had major impact on people aside from just his sister.. And he's going to be a fundamental piece in the development and growth of some other people/souls.. Who, though? I don't know, you could probably answer that before anybody else might be able to

[salvemaster]

We are all part of one consciousness, observing and interpreting itself subjectively.

[Iskatehard]

^ That's what I believe as well. As I said in another thread, I believe that "God" is a collection of all the "souls"/consciousnesses. We sort of "branch off" from each other for the sake of learning, but when we combine, our knowledge is spread throughout the entire entity that we make.