Originality?

[Big&Beautiful]

At this very moment, there are nearly 7 billion people on the Earth. 7 billion "individuals". 7 billion minds constantly formulating "new" ideas and concepts. And out of that vast array of minds, one belongs to you. You're mind comprises .00000000049% of the world's mind power.

Now with that in mind, do you believe that you have ever actually thought of a completely original idea? An idea or a concept that no other on this earth (past or present) has ever even pondered?

I personally think that I have never had a truly original idea. Case and point this thread on sbc:
http://www.skateboard-city.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=212560.

I really thought this was one of the most original concepts I had ever conceived on my own. Haha so much for that...

[CTskater94]

ive written songs...

[salvemaster]

^Music will always be original. Even a cover of a classic blues tune is original. With music, it's not so much the ideas themselves that are original as much as the energy and emotion you put into it.

So in terms of ideological originality, i suppose there isn't really such a thing; unless your'e talking about cutting edge science or like computer technology, then it's just a toss up as to whether or not you were the first to conceive an idea.

But that kinda implies the question, 'does it even matter?' I don't think so, personally. I mean, if you come up with an idea, then fuck everyone else, that idea is yours man. It's all just coincidental observation.

But yeah, i guess the only original thing we know and own is our heart, not our brain... if that doesn't sound too disneychannelmoviecliche...

[Big&Beautiful]

Yeah, I think that's the beauty of music and art in general. It is pure creativity. But in terms of ideas and concepts, I think originality is unachievable but salvemaster I agree with you on the point of originality's actual importance. I think that as long as the idea is new and refreshing to you personally then it has served its purpose more or less.

[adude113]

I was just thinking earlier today "I wonder if anybody else had this (previous) thought." And then I thought, "well what is a thought/idea?" So I think we need to answer that question first. Then we need to determine what makes it different. Like every single detail? Cuz then it would be a lot different. yeah....

[Iskatehard]

In terms of art.. Originality is constant, I believe. Even if you try to dispute it by looking at the ideas behind said art, or what previous art might have inspired it or some shit.. It still has a very unique form of value.. And I really appreciate that, I have to say.

As for thoughts.. Not much originality, I suppose. As mentioned already, I question whether or not it even exists in modern day in that sense.

But at the same time.. Ideas and such.. Sure, other people might have had them before... Lots of people, even.. But it's not just about ideas, it's about what said ideas lead to. I believe there can be a sense of originality in behavior and actions in that sense..

And haha, also.. Like the quote.. "If I aint seen it, it's new to me!". I don't care about originality in the grand scheme of humanity. Why should I care if somebody passed away X amount of years ago or living many miles away from me has a similar idea? If I am not going to come across said idea or concept or whatever have you myself personally, then I'm not aware of it.. So it sort of doesn't exist..

In that sense.. I guess I can say there is a large form of "originality value", and it's all relative to myself... If y'know what I mean

[Marevix]

^Music will always be original. Even a cover of a classic blues tune is original. With music, it's not so much the ideas themselves that are original as much as the energy and emotion you put into it.

So in terms of ideological originality, i suppose there isn't really such a thing; unless your'e talking about cutting edge science or like computer technology, then it's just a toss up as to whether or not you were the first to conceive an idea.

But that kinda implies the question, 'does it even matter?' I don't think so, personally. I mean, if you come up with an idea, then fuck everyone else, that idea is yours man. It's all just coincidental observation.

But yeah, i guess the only original thing we know and own is our heart, not our brain... if that doesn't sound too disneychannelmoviecliche...

I think it could be argued that music is more "unique" than "original", as what we do is almost always based out of what we have heard before.

[skater fo ever]

just look at yourself....every single human body is different...if out of all those people not one are EXACTLY alike then it is easily possible for every human to have unique and original thoughts and ideas that no one has thought of before.
Your question is basically very simple, just presented in a rather complicated looking way.

[salvemaster]

I think it could be argued that music is more "unique" than "original", as what we do is almost always based out of what we have heard before.

Yeah, i should edit that because i think you're right.

Honestly, and i'm surprised i remembered this long enough to post because i had this thought earlier today, originality doesn't even matter.

But is everyone unique? Obviously. We all have specific ways of thinking, even if those ways are influenced by someone else.

So if we are all unique in whatever way we are unique in, then it's not really possible for originality to be non existent.

Even if two people have the same thought, it would have been brought about by two wholly separate incidents and would, most likely, have two completely different effects on that person.

So it's not a question of 'who had the idea first,' it's a question of 'what that person is willing to do with that idea'

N so i guess originality is just a race, in ways; while uniqueness is really what we should be concerned with (even though we don't really need to be concerned with it).