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insomnia
10-11-2008, 09:24 AM
post your thoughts about it
I like it cuz it gives you a good fast tempo for skating and you dont get distracted by the lyrics cuz most of the time you cant understand wtf their saying.
my faves are dead infection, antigama, jan ag, fuck the facts, anal cunt

hell
10-11-2008, 09:28 AM
that think all that gore shit is the most pathetic piece of trash ever to hit the music industry

Trevor144
10-11-2008, 09:37 AM
i think its stupid...

Turboz
10-11-2008, 11:39 AM
gets me in the zone.

Goon
10-11-2008, 11:58 AM
i wouldn't consider it music.

xburial
10-11-2008, 12:10 PM
boring.

iforgot112233
10-11-2008, 12:29 PM
I like metalcore. but I never really got what grindcore is. what are some good grindcore bands?

Turboz
10-11-2008, 01:53 PM
i wouldn't consider it music.because you're listening to the wrong grindcore bands

strapingyunglad
10-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Its soooooooooo awsome. People who dont like it just dis it cuz there freinds dont like it and there tryin to fit in.

JerseySucks
10-11-2008, 03:15 PM
I like that type of stuff, not when I'm skating though.

Ed Gein, Engorged, Daughters, From a Second Story Window, Graf Orlock, Converge, etc.

reptiskate52
10-11-2008, 03:22 PM
Its soooooooooo awsome. People who dont like it just dis it cuz there freinds dont like it and there tryin to fit in.
No, because all overly distorted guitar and lyrics that sound like a guy throwing up into the mic.


That's why people don't like it, it's not music.

Kumquat
10-11-2008, 03:28 PM
Music is what people define it to be.

JerseySucks
10-11-2008, 03:29 PM
That's why people don't like it, it's not music.

Ignorant statement is ignorant.

reptiskate52
10-11-2008, 03:33 PM
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
Proof goregrind is music.


GO!

ZeroOrDie.
10-11-2008, 03:34 PM
I like grindcore..

kas
10-11-2008, 03:35 PM
This thread title just orally and anally violated the -core suffix.

Proof goregrind is music.


GO!

teehee!

Ride_Destructo
10-11-2008, 03:38 PM
I like Thrash Metal, but anything heavier is disgusting.
Thats my opinion.

JerseySucks
10-11-2008, 03:43 PM
Proof goregrind is music.


GO!

It has all the elements that make music, music. Dynamics, texture, melodies, etc. It just has gore/horror themed lyrics and imagery. It's not trying to create the same atmosphere and effect as "normal" music, it's just different.

A better question is you tell me how it's not music.

I also realize most bands in this genre are utter shit, but I listen to a few bands that can be thrown into that genre from time to time that make more conventional music.

bubbleboy
10-11-2008, 03:43 PM
i guess the most metal things i listen to is metalcore, that and progressive metal, like between the buried and me

reptiskate52
10-11-2008, 05:02 PM
It has all the elements that make music, music. Dynamics, texture, melodies, etc. It just has gore/horror themed lyrics and imagery. It's not trying to create the same atmosphere and effect as "normal" music, it's just different.

A better question is you tell me how it's not music.

I also realize most bands in this genre are utter shit, but I listen to a few bands that can be thrown into that genre from time to time that make more conventional music.
Amount of distortion disposes of melodies and transforms it to pure disonance.


lol

Twizzler
10-11-2008, 05:15 PM
Its soooooooooo awsome. People who dont like it just dis it cuz there freinds dont like it and there tryin to fit in.

If you like it then you're trying to fit in.

How can you take music that sounds like gorilla taking a shit seriously?

Pig squeals? Thats just fucking stupid.

eberg15101
10-11-2008, 05:17 PM
i wouldn't consider it music.

this.

How can you take music that sounds like gorilla taking a shit seriously?

[\QUOTE]Pig squeals? Thats just fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]

you mean like squeelies on guitar or pinch harmonics as they are better known????

or you mean like oooooooooo that one song haha the with guy makin pig sounds lolyou mean like squeelies on guitar or pinch harmonics as they are better known????

Twizzler
10-11-2008, 05:21 PM
wat

eberg15101
10-11-2008, 05:23 PM
wat

never mind lol, nothin, just ignore what i said haha

Twizzler
10-11-2008, 05:25 PM
Well, yeah I hate some retard grunting and whorting into a mic. Grindgore is just plain stupid. Whats even worse is the faggots that record themselves singing along to their favorite songs.

hell
10-11-2008, 05:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMTTkFc9vlU

wtf?

remuse
10-11-2008, 10:07 PM
no. i hate grindcore. some of the music is actuall okay and would be so bad if it wasnt in drop A with 3 death metal pedals set on max. and no vocals.

JerseySucks
10-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Amount of distortion disposes of melodies and transforms it to pure disonance.


lol

That's just false. If you're saying everything in the grindcore genre is pure *dissonance, you're just an idiot.

NotEvenDM
10-11-2008, 10:43 PM
some of you people don't know shit about grindcore, but it does suck

ToeFace
10-11-2008, 10:54 PM
Theres also pornocore like torsfuck rompeprop cock and ball torture

Bam Adio skater
10-11-2008, 11:23 PM
that think all that gore shit is the most pathetic piece of trash ever to hit the music industry

and thats what we all may think of you.

xburial
10-12-2008, 01:14 AM
man some of you guys are bring up how grindcore isn't music, go listen to noisecore/noise. if any genre could be considered "not music" its that right there, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neLKgSdrch8

reptiskate52
10-12-2008, 05:02 AM
That's just false. If you're saying everything in the grindcore genre is pure *dissonance, you're just an idiot.
I'm mostly talking about goregrind/horrorgrind/pornogrind.


And yeah, it pretty much is.

insomnia
10-12-2008, 05:16 AM
it depends on what you consider distortion

drizzle
10-12-2008, 06:39 AM
how bout sum powerviolence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFZDPcLWHs

shame you cant hear the vocals in that vidya much.

Turboz
10-12-2008, 06:42 AM
how bout sum powerviolence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFZDPcLWHs

shame you cant hear the vocals in that vidya much.:cool:

kas
10-12-2008, 07:09 AM
I don't listen to gore/porno just because I hate the BREE BREE/swallowing sound vocals. It always sounds like they're trying too hard to be heavy or extreme. I love grindcore though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRUzqHTNh8

Occupant
10-12-2008, 07:36 AM
i like it, but not when im skating

hell
10-12-2008, 08:35 AM
and thats what we all may think of you.
im the most pathetic peice of trash to ever hit the music industry? nice one, faggot.

Leftwinga03
10-12-2008, 08:51 AM
i have never heard of any of these genres. but after hearing those youtube vids, i must agree that it IS music. it is really sucky music, but it stays in a rhythmic tempo, which basically defines music. hell, poetry is music in a sense.

I dont understand why anyone would enjoy this music though. grindcore doesnt sound bad; at least it has melodic qualities-its like half metalcore/half death metal. but for pornocore or horrocore or analcore or whatever, just listen to metalcore. its close enough to these genres and actually sounds good.

maybe is easier for some people to skate to this music, but when i listen to metalcore and skate, it stresses me out and i end up sucking

insomnia
10-12-2008, 11:46 AM
i cant skate to something where i can hear what there saying because i usually get distracted

xburial
10-12-2008, 12:06 PM
I'm mostly talking about goregrind/horrorgrind/pornogrind.


And yeah, it pretty much is.
not really


i have never heard of any of these genres. but after hearing those youtube vids, i must agree that it IS music. it is really sucky music, but it stays in a rhythmic tempo, which basically defines music. hell, poetry is music in a sense.

I dont understand why anyone would enjoy this music though. grindcore doesnt sound bad; at least it has melodic qualities-its like half metalcore/half death metal. but for pornocore or horrocore or analcore or whatever, just listen to metalcore. its close enough to these genres and actually sounds good.

maybe is easier for some people to skate to this music, but when i listen to metalcore and skate, it stresses me out and i end up sucking

metalcore isnt very close to grind at all..




yum discordance axis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwnaErzqrU

JerseySucks
10-12-2008, 12:31 PM
http://www.myspace.com/engorged

Engorged fucking rips.

And these bands don't even take themselves seriously, so neither should you.

Ramen
10-12-2008, 12:36 PM
Uh, grindcore beats polka.
Beats polka by a long mile.

reptiskate52
10-12-2008, 05:21 PM
http://www.myspace.com/engorged

Engorged fucking rips.

And these bands don't even take themselves seriously, so neither should you.
Well that's a silly thing to say, saying they're not even music obviously shows I don't take them seriously.

Chupacabra.
10-12-2008, 05:23 PM
Proof goregrind is music.


GO!

uses the same instruments and techniques as everything else?
Dude, they consider rap music and techno.
Synths and spoken lyrics, Metal is music.

I like it sometimes, I used to be real into it though.

JerseySucks
10-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Well that's a silly thing to say, saying they're not even music obviously shows I don't take them seriously.

Well you saying it's not even music just shows you're an ignorant fool. But, the music is made for moshing, headbanging, etc. It takes itself less seriously than most music that people think holds a deep message or has life changing lyrics, or something else stupid.

Chupacabra.
10-12-2008, 05:31 PM
i have you on last fm or whatever^ lol

reptiskate52
10-12-2008, 06:10 PM
Well you saying it's not even music just shows you're an ignorant fool. But, the music is made for moshing, headbanging, etc. It takes itself less seriously than most music that people think holds a deep message or has life changing lyrics, or something else stupid.
Oh, so it's shitty music made by people who were too shitty of musicians to make music that's not shitty and then use the excuse "we don't take ourselves seriously" to justify making said shitty music.



That's art at its finest.




I fucking hate the world.

manual-man1112
10-12-2008, 06:15 PM
^^
i think thats it

/thread

Chupacabra.
10-12-2008, 06:19 PM
Oh, so it's shitty music made by people who were too shitty of musicians to make music that's not shitty and then use the excuse "we don't take ourselves seriously" to justify making said shitty music.



That's art at its finest.




I fucking hate the world.
AHA
you admitted it as music.

JerseySucks
10-12-2008, 07:50 PM
Oh, so it's shitty music made by people who were too shitty of musicians to make music that's not shitty and then use the excuse "we don't take ourselves seriously" to justify making said shitty music.



That's art at its finest.




I fucking hate the world.

No. You didn't understand my point. The music is good, but it's not made for the same reasons as most music. The lyrics aren't supposed to have some faux "deep meaning." At least they are being modest and not thinking their lyrics are so influential like most bands. The music is good, but it's mainly made for concerts, moshing, and headbanging. You can't create the same kind of energy that genres like grind and death metal create in other "normal" genres, ones that you wouldn't call shit.

Besides, music is subjective, and you just admitted it was music, so your whole argument is gone anyway.

JerseySucks
10-12-2008, 07:53 PM
i have you on last fm or whatever^ lol

What's your username?

eberg15101
10-12-2008, 08:10 PM
No. You didn't understand my point. The music is good, but it's not made for the same reasons as most music. The lyrics aren't supposed to have some faux "deep meaning." At least they are being modest and not thinking their lyrics are so influential like most bands. The music is good, but it's mainly made for concerts, moshing, and headbanging. You can't create the same kind of energy that genres like grind and death metal create in other "normal" genres, ones that you wouldn't call shit.

Besides, music is subjective, and you just admitted it was music, so your whole argument is gone anyway.

i find a lot of slower bands that actually make music to have more energy, speed doesent allways equal energy, plus the vibe from it is horrible


another thing i would love to ask a lot of the people that listen to it is

if your all hardcore and shit why the fuck are half you vegetarians lol??? i dont understand ahahahha, youre songs are all aboutblood and gore and killing and pillaging and raping lol, but you cant eat a damn chicken???

JerseySucks
10-12-2008, 08:29 PM
i find a lot of slower bands that actually make music to have more energy, speed doesent allways equal energy, plus the vibe from it is horrible


another thing i would love to ask a lot of the people that listen to it is

if your all hardcore and shit why the fuck are half you vegetarians lol??? i dont understand ahahahha, youre songs are all aboutblood and gore and killing and pillaging and raping lol, but you cant eat a damn chicken???

The energy is different, I've already stated my point 2 times, I'm not doing it a third.

That whole vegan thing isn't really related to grind and death metal. That's more closely related to those faggy "HxC Christian" bands, and some punk.

xburial
10-12-2008, 10:30 PM
i find a lot of slower bands that actually make music to have more energy, speed doesent allways equal energy, plus the vibe from it is horrible


another thing i would love to ask a lot of the people that listen to it is

if your all hardcore and shit why the fuck are half you vegetarians lol??? i dont understand ahahahha, youre songs are all aboutblood and gore and killing and pillaging and raping lol, but you cant eat a damn chicken???
because alot of musicians in that (and similar genres) like animals but dont like people (because they ruin the earth etc. blah blah)

eberg15101
10-12-2008, 10:59 PM
because alot of musicians in that (and similar genres) like animals but dont like people (because they ruin the earth etc. blah blah)

but what the fuck ya know, hahahhaha i thin kits great that they can sing about raping children and beating fetuses and weird toatally HXC shit ahahha and then theyre all pale and scrawny and unhealthy looking and they make themselves suffer even thoe half of them like meat and then its just halarious lol

xburial
10-13-2008, 12:22 AM
but what the fuck ya know, hahahhaha i thin kits great that they can sing about raping children and beating fetuses and weird toatally HXC shit ahahha and then theyre all pale and scrawny and unhealthy looking and they make themselves suffer even thoe half of them like meat and then its just halarious lol
the bands that scream about raping children arent the same bands that preach animal rights.

wolfgang
10-13-2008, 01:30 AM
Oh, so it's shitty music made by people who were too shitty of musicians to make music that's not shitty and then use the excuse "we don't take ourselves seriously" to justify making said shitty music.

That's art at its finest.

I fucking hate the world.

God forbid someone have different tastes than you in something as completely subjective as music.

But yeah, it all sounds like shit to me. Even if the music is half way decent the vocals ruin it.

panzerfaustbarson
10-13-2008, 04:45 AM
Good, but not for skating.

reptiskate52
10-13-2008, 04:46 AM
No. You didn't understand my point. The music is good, but it's not made for the same reasons as most music. The lyrics aren't supposed to have some faux "deep meaning." At least they are being modest and not thinking their lyrics are so influential like most bands. The music is good, but it's mainly made for concerts, moshing, and headbanging. You can't create the same kind of energy that genres like grind and death metal create in other "normal" genres, ones that you wouldn't call shit.

Besides, music is subjective, and you just admitted it was music, so your whole argument is gone anyway.
This is completely wrong for one big reason. Let's take the average musician who makes average music and tries to have a meaning. He might have a few tattoos, or a piercing here or there, but they look like normal people.

Now people who make ultra heavy shit WAY more often have massive gauges, tats all over their body and piercings everywhere.


It's quite obvious they take that lifestyle quite seriously.


Plus, I've met the singer of some local grindcore band and he's the cockiest motherfucker I've ever met.


Your argument is flawed as shit.

kas
10-13-2008, 07:00 AM
Repti you're too much. The person who said "THIS DOESN'T COUNT AS MUSIC BECAUSE IT IS TOO LOUD AND UNPLEASANT TO ME" is calling someone else out on a logical fallacy.

reptiskate52
10-13-2008, 07:22 AM
What can I say, I like screwing around with people.

SilverAndSilent
10-13-2008, 08:08 AM
try looking at the guitar tabs for grindcore songs.

even if you don't like the music, you've gotta respect somebody who can play 20-25 songs of that shit in less than an hour

insomnia
10-13-2008, 08:31 AM
you have to admit it sick how some of the singers make those low sounds without using machines, even though alot of them do the ones that dont are sick

iamtheyeti
10-13-2008, 08:54 AM
I like that type of stuff, not when I'm skating though.

Ed Gein, Engorged, Daughters, From a Second Story Window, Graf Orlock, Converge, etc.

yes

kas
10-13-2008, 09:05 AM
don't get me wrong its plenty amusing

eberg15101
10-13-2008, 09:41 AM
the bands that scream about raping children arent the same bands that preach animal rights.

its not the bands, its like the kids that listen to them that are all pale and sickly and wont eat meat lol

xburial
10-13-2008, 11:27 AM
its not the bands, its like the kids that listen to them that are all pale and sickly and wont eat meat lol
are the kids talking about raping babies?



This is completely wrong for one big reason. Let's take the average musician who makes average music and tries to have a meaning. He might have a few tattoos, or a piercing here or there, but they look like normal people.

Now people who make ultra heavy shit WAY more often have massive gauges, tats all over their body and piercings everywhere.


It's quite obvious they take that lifestyle quite seriously.


Plus, I've met the singer of some local grindcore band and he's the cockiest motherfucker I've ever met.


Your argument is flawed as shit.

how do you think you can even win an argument that a genre of music isn't music?


take a goregrind band like cock and ball torture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oCDbDebDA

now aside from the pitch shifted-guttural vocals all the other instruments are very similar to death metal. since your calling grindcore "not music" and since alot of death metal is very similar to grind(brutal death metal), are you calling death metal not music as well?


or take another grind band, nasum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVR9LanXmJ4

i don't understand your logic in not calling it music? you'd have to denounce hardcore/death metal/crust punk/black metal as well?

JerseySucks
10-13-2008, 12:18 PM
This is completely wrong for one big reason. Let's take the average musician who makes average music and tries to have a meaning. He might have a few tattoos, or a piercing here or there, but they look like normal people.

Now people who make ultra heavy shit WAY more often have massive gauges, tats all over their body and piercings everywhere.


It's quite obvious they take that lifestyle quite seriously.


Plus, I've met the singer of some local grindcore band and he's the cockiest motherfucker I've ever met.


Your argument is flawed as shit.

Haha. Most grindcore and death metal bands actually don't have all those gauges and shit, that's more for the HxC kidz.

I lol at your subjective argument about the guy you met and the random pseudo-fact about tats and stuff. I hope you aren't being serious.

reptiskate52
10-13-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm not by any stretch of the imagination.

insomnia
10-16-2008, 12:59 PM
i dont see how you wouldnt want to skate to it, it doesnt distract you

i cheat at golf
10-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Who the fuck is everyone to say what is and isn't music?

people's tastes are their own decisions, let them enjoy it.

I like what I've heard of that sort of stuff, like deathcore and what not. But I don't know if I'd listen ona regular basis

sobrien
10-16-2008, 03:34 PM
Converge is the only band I still listen to from the whole "screaming" family. "Forever Comes Crashing" is probably the best "core" song I've ever heard. But anyways, most of it is real shitty and generic. I'm talking about 90% of it, but there are still good bands.