christianity being taken out of schools

[PoolShark]

how do you guys feel about this? im christian so it kind of bothers me that they are doing that.it wouldnt bother me if they took all religion out of school becuase that would be less prejidice but i don't understand why. maybe i just don't understand because i am christian but i still don't really get it

[HabitatSkater]

They need to. Public schools should not be teaching or promoting christianity.

[PoolShark]

yeah but the teach us about the quran and about budhism and peganism thats what i dont understand

[HabitatSkater]

yeah but the teach us about the quran and about budhism and peganism thats what i dont understand
I haven't seen that at my school.

[PoolShark]

oh. well they do here but if teachers mention christianity the get fired.they can ramble on about satanism if they want though

[RageAgainstTheToyMachine]

They are trying to take it out of homeschooling too. I go to a homeschool resorce center to take classes, and once a month they make you come in and talk with someone about my progress in the school subjects I do at home. And recently they said they arent going to count/credit me because I am studying the creation, so because they aren't counting the time I spend working on this subject they can exspell me for not spending the recommended time. So basically I can get exspelled for learning about creation. Unfortuantly I am one of the only few people who see a problem with that.

[fat_poser]

hah, take that visible majority!

[Vivica]

hah, take that visible majority!

hahaha!

face it kids, Christianity is taught in more western schools than any other religion, and thats the only reason alot of Christian kids are Christian, because they're taught that that's whats correct at an early age.

i agree that there should be no prejudice towards any religion, but i have no problem with Christianity being taken out of your schools.

HOWEVER, if you have religious studies lessons, i think that it should be taught in them, not alone, but along with other major religions

[FlamingMushroom]

its stupid we might as well take america out schools so we dont offend terrorist.

[Vivica]

thats stupid kid, seriously, that just retarded.

maybe if you did do more world history and not so much american history then you'd know alittle more about world affairs?

you Christians have got to learn that you're not the only religion on the world, and although you beleive you're correct, thats no reason to presume everybody else should think you're correct.

[Ranr]

you Christians have got to learn that you're not the only religion on the world, and although you beleive you're correct, thats no reason to presume everybody else should think you're correct.
thats exactly what I think. Christianity is the only religion that tries to force its believes onto other people. My mum was reading this book about this guy who climbed everest, but then he broke his leg coming down it or something. He managed to climb down, even though his legs were broken and he had frostbite and whatever else. Anyway, he has a website, and on it he tells (in his blog) about how he gets thousands of christians trying to convert him because of his "miracle" survival. Its only the christians as well, he never gets anyone from any other religion trying to convert him, and when he tells the christians hes non-religous, they start abusing him.
last year we had like 4 different christian groups visit the school, trying to convince us to go to church. And years ago, when I was in 5th grade, this ambulance officer just approached me on the street and tried to convince me to go to sunday school. It was sorta creepy actualy, cos he wouldn't give up, and he kind of cornered me in some hedges so i couldn't get away lol.
Oh yeah, and we had religous education in primary school, but they only taught christianity, so my parents just gave me a note to get out of it... They would've let me do it if they taught all religions, not just one.
Anyway, my point is that christians try to force their believes onto other people, instead of letting them make they're own choices... No other religion does this (Except maybe the muslim extremists)

[Vivica]

although i largely agree with you, different types of christianity are worse than others, and different people are worse than others.

example

Slapdown, loves god etc, doesn't make a huge deal out of it, but beleives etc...

Random American Newbie, "omg, slipknot r teh gay bc0z they'r satnic, jesus tells me wat 2 do not satan"


Slapdown, understands and doesn't tell people to shut up, Random American Newbie, doesn't even understand his own religion, let alone any others.

[flipuk]

Im confused, is christianity taught seperately or like in religious education along with the others?

if it is singularly it should be removed, otherwise, if it is in RE it shouldnt. I dont see a problem about learning about what other religions belief BUT that is all they should teach you. They shouldnt be trying to give you an opinion, they should be giving you the knowledge to create your own opinion.

[Ranr]

Im confused, is christianity taught seperately or like in religious education along with the others?

if it is singularly it should be removed, otherwise, if it is in RE it shouldnt. I dont see a problem about learning about what other religions belief BUT that is all they should teach you. They shouldnt be trying to give you an opinion, they should be giving you the knowledge to create your own opinion.thats my opinion too, but at my old school they only taught christianity... I don't know about schoools in the US though.... My parents are just teaching my sisters about different religions at home, cos the school just gets some christians from the local church to come in and preach about god and what-not...
And the funny thing is they have to bribe the kids with chocolate and other candy. If it wasn't for that, half the kids would't do it.

[HabitatSkater]

If you are taking a class devoted to studying religion, then that is completely different than somebody saying, "God created everything blah, blah, blah."

My school currently plays christian music over the loudspeaker in the morning. I am about to go complain.

[PoolShark]

thats stupid kid, seriously, that just retarded.

maybe if you did do more world history and not so much american history then you'd know alittle more about world affairs?

you Christians have got to learn that you're not the only religion on the world, and although you beleive you're correct, thats no reason to presume everybody else should think you're correct.

i have respect for all religions and admire anyone who has one no matter what it is. i wouldnt have a problem with them taking all of religions out of schools but they arent.just christianity. A Teacher Got Expelled for explaining christianity and what christians beleive in history but my geography teacher babbled on about what peganism is and buddhism for like a two hour period.There is also a senior science teahcer that says"if you are christian i want you to leave me classroom right now" which is stupid becuase you need that class to graduate no matter what religion you are and the school doesnt even care that he does that.
and i do believe that im correct.but i also believe everyone has the right to believe what they want without being hassled or harrased and i dont parade around going"im right your wrong,your going to hell" like some christians do because thats just stupid. i beleive in letting people be who they wanna be.good or bad.wrong or right

[Vivica]

to be honest, if that is happening, people are properly retarded over there (which is where?)

[hch4life]

being a Christian i believe that Christainity should be taught. I want as many people as possible to understand the religion, and know Jesus Christ. Now im not saying that you have to believe in Christainity or have to study it but I believe you should be able to learn and worship freely.

[fat_poser]

religion and education have no place coexisting except as an optional class.

why the fuck would you want to learn about your religion at school? get off your lazy **** go to a fucking church and talk to someone.

[PoolShark]

to be honest, if that is happening, people are properly retarded over there (which is where?)

santa cruz,California... a city about 20 minutes from san jose and yes they are all retarded

[Renegade]

They need to. Public schools should not be teaching or promoting christianity.
thats right pretty much exept take out all forms of stuff like that in learing but they should let the students practice their religion or not do stuff that opposes their religion

[fat_poser]

It's always funny when the massa' gets a kick in the nuts.

[seanb]

im a christian but i dont think we should teach it in schools.

[Mr Evil Guy]

Either let every religion be in a school, or have no religion in schools at all.

My roommate is persisting that I write his opinion, so here it is:
Everyone has a right to a religion, even it is all bullshit

[minilogoskickrock69]

I think it's retarded because we aren't even allowed to discuss christianity in our world history class but we can study other religions they should teach us everyone.
Instead of having a christmas party in the 4th grade we had a Kwanzaa party and I'm not even joking. It's crazy they think we should learn about a holiday that less than 10 percent of the U.S. celebrates its idiotic.

[YourMom]

There is too much (both negative and positive) bias toward Christianity in this damn country. And as long as there is it will be continued to be discrimated, which will probably be until Christians become a minority (something I don't see happening in a very long time). I'm no supporter of religion being taught at school but since it obviously is, I don't see why it's "wrong" to be discussing Christianity at all. That's just unfair.

[emericaxskater]

yeah in my 6th grade social studies class (im in 7th now) we went into thie big, long discussion about judaism (i think i spelled that right) but when someone said one little thing about christianity...they got sent to the principals office


I think they should take all religions out of school instead of just one

The government is just trying to be politically correct...cuz if they dont you know someones going to try and sue and theres gonna be this big controversy....

[BLacklabel/\]

we learned about jesus in our school cause we had to it was in the book

[givehugsnotdrugs]

They are trying to take it out of homeschooling too. I go to a homeschool resorce center to take classes, and once a month they make you come in and talk with someone about my progress in the school subjects I do at home. And recently they said they arent going to count/credit me because I am studying the creation, so because they aren't counting the time I spend working on this subject they can exspell me for not spending the recommended time. So basically I can get exspelled for learning about creation. Unfortuantly I am one of the only few people who see a problem with that.

Oh, you're homeschooled too. Rad man, I just had a meeting with the board today. I don't get any religious studies but it seems like a lot of the lessons that I don't take are.

I have no problem with christianity, or any other religion. I do however, have a problem when their beliefs are forced upon me. I think all religion should be taken out of public schools. If someone who's homeschooled wants to learn about it, fine. If someone in private school wants to, fine. If someone learns about it on their own time, fine. Just don't make me.

That's why my country frustrates me, they don't let you be, and they always assume they're right.

[seanb]

god is not religion, but a spiritual bond.

[chris5786]

how do you guys feel about this? im christian so it kind of bothers me that they are doing that.it wouldnt bother me if they took all religion out of school becuase that would be less prejidice but i don't understand why. maybe i just don't understand because i am christian but i still don't really get iti think they shouldnt teach it but they shouldn't not talk about it and other religions

[dain84]

It's retarded. All these faggots who say they're not Christian still celebrate Christmas. You can't have it both ways, people!

[liebherk]

god is not religion, but a spiritual bond.

like a psychic chemical bond?

[fat_poser]

It's retarded. All these faggots who say they're not Christian still celebrate Christmas. You can't have it both ways, people!

and they try to make up for it by saying they celebrate the Christmas with Santa Clause and presents. Way to go dip***** instead of spirituality youre supporting blind consumerism.

I do not celebrate Christmas.

[Vivica]

my girlfriend is Hindu as most of you know, and she celebrates Christmas.

although i am Christian on paper, i am ONLY Christian on paper.

the only thing that i have ever liked about Christmas is being given presents for having done nothing... and even that i have STRONG feelings against. Anybody who says they hate everything about being given presents for doing nothing is lying to one degree or another, however i do still think its a stupid practice and should've stopped decades ago.

[Marevix]

I say that religion should be allowed to be discussed and (optionally) teached in public schools. See how I didn't name any particular religion? If you want to learn about the history and culture of a religion in a cl**** do so. I strongly disagree with preaching in classes however. No advocation of religion is in my agenda, only education of the history and culture.

[dain84]

and they try to make up for it by saying they celebrate the Christmas with Santa Clause and presents. Way to go dip***** instead of spirituality youre supporting blind consumerism.

I do not celebrate Christmas.
WHAT? SANTA ISN'T REAL!
away beavers!

[child-of-insanity]

honestly, i don't really care about christianity. i am a christian, but thats because i got forced into it as a baby and i'm denouncing my religion when i turn 18. but it's not that i don't believe in some kind of creator(s); i just don't care about religion. i wanna live my life now, not worry about what happens after i die.

[HabitatSkater]

It's retarded. All these faggots who say they're not Christian still celebrate Christmas. You can't have it both ways, people!

Christmas isn't even about Jesus anymore. Also, many scholars believe he was born in June, and Christians derived Christmas from the Pagan holiday.

[fat_poser]

WHAT? SANTA ISN'T REAL!
away beavers!

i never said santa ainr elw

[liebherk]

somebody's drunk...

[dain84]

Christmas isn't even about Jesus anymore. Also, many scholars believe he was born in June, and Christians derived Christmas from the Pagan holiday.
I heard he was born in November.

[Slapdown]

As Vivica stated earlier, I'm a Christian, but I refuse to force myself on people.

I can understand why so many people hate Christians, and are turned away from God, because I've had first hand experience of this. About 10 years ago, my mum became a Christian, and since that day, shes been reading books, the bible, and listening to every tape she can find about it. Personally, i think thats fine. The problem was, she felt the need to tell me about it, even though i wasn't interested.

It seemed that the less interested I became, the more she'd tell me, and the more I'd reject it. Although I believed in it from a small age, I began to just flat out reject it, and even call myself an athiest, because my mums way of "getting me saved" just wasn't working.

It was only earlier this year when I went to my new college, which is a Christian college, that I found it for myself. I met a guy who had Jesus in him. You could tell. This guy was so pure, so nice, so decent, and overall, so damn happy. He had something I didn't have, and I wanted it. I got talking to him about what it was that he had, and why I didn't have it, and what I needed to do to get it. He just talked to me about Jesus. he answered my questions, and was far less dogmatic than my mum.

It was about this time last year that I embraced it for the first time, and accepted it as my own. Thats why I agree with you that Christians often seem over powering, over bearing, and overly annoying. If only they could approach the situation in a less patronising way. They are more intent on telling you what will happen if you don't find God, then showing you how God can change your life with his love. That's what they need to learn.

It was only a few months ago I was out on a day trip to the coast with some friends, and we saw some Christian Fundamentalists in a van, going around handing out flyers and talking to people. Me and my friends with skating, and they came over and started talking to us. However, they didn't ask us our opinions. They immeadiately offered us drinks and cookies. Now to me, thats wrong. Why should they have to bribe us to get their foot in the door? That's just wrong. My friends aren't Christians, but we have better dicussions about it when they come to me, rather than me forcing myself on them with sugary treats.


On topic, I believe Christianity should be taught in schools, but along with Religious Studies. I did 5 years of RS, and this involved Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism, etc. This was fine, as now I know more about all religions. however, to teach Christianity on its own makes no sense to me, and it should be taken out of schools, because it appears to be more forcing of the issue.

Sorry for the long post.

[fat_poser]

As Vivica stated earlier, I'm a Christian, but I refuse to force myself on people.

I can understand why so many people hate Christians, and are turned away from God, because I've had first hand experience of this. About 10 years ago, my mum became a Christian, and since that day, shes been reading books, the bible, and listening to every tape she can find about it. Personally, i think thats fine. The problem was, she felt the need to tell me about it, even though i wasn't interested.

It seemed that the less interested I became, the more she'd tell me, and the more I'd reject it. Although I believed in it from a small age, I began to just flat out reject it, and even call myself an athiest, because my mums way of "getting me saved" just wasn't working.

It was only earlier this year when I went to my new college, which is a Christian college, that I found it for myself. I met a guy who had Jesus in him. You could tell. This guy was so pure, so nice, so decent, and overall, so damn happy. He had something I didn't have, and I wanted it. I got talking to him about what it was that he had, and why I didn't have it, and what I needed to do to get it. He just talked to me about Jesus. he answered my questions, and was far less dogmatic than my mum.

It was about this time last year that I embraced it for the first time, and accepted it as my own. Thats why I agree with you that Christians often seem over powering, over bearing, and overly annoying. If only they could approach the situation in a less patronising way. They are more intent on telling you what will happen if you don't find God, then showing you how God can change your life with his love. That's what they need to learn.

It was only a few months ago I was out on a day trip to the coast with some friends, and we saw some Christian Fundamentalists in a van, going around handing out flyers and talking to people. Me and my friends with skating, and they came over and started talking to us. However, they didn't ask us our opinions. They immeadiately offered us drinks and cookies. Now to me, thats wrong. Why should they have to bribe us to get their foot in the door? That's just wrong. My friends aren't Christians, but we have better dicussions about it when they come to me, rather than me forcing myself on them with sugary treats.


On topic, I believe Christianity should be taught in schools, but along with Religious Studies. I did 5 years of RS, and this involved Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism, etc. This was fine, as now I know more about all religions. however, to teach Christianity on its own makes no sense to me, and it should be taken out of schools, because it appears to be more forcing of the issue.

Sorry for the long post.

Oh really? Well I have an empty 26er, a condom and a letter from you that tells a different story.

[Slapdown]

Oh really? Well I have an empty 26er, a condom and a letter from you that tells a different story.

Fine, I'll rephrase:

I refuse to force my beliefs or religion on people.

(I will force myself on people sexually with not much problem though).

[check_it]

OK, well I am Jewish myeself, and even though i have been criticized for my religion, mainly by christians, when they have they have basically just told me what is going to happen to me if i don't turn Christian over what will happen to me if i do decide to convert to Christianity. What all the people TRYING to convince me to be Christian don't understand is that my mom is Christian and my dad is Jewish, so i grew up with both the religions, i didn't get baptized at birth because my parents believed that i should choose what i wanted to believe. When i turned 12 i started finding out even more than i already knew about religions, and I found out I truly do believe in in the Jewish religion, and I made the choice myself to get a Barmitzvah when i turned 13.
I beleive that every person should get to choose what they believe, like I did all those years ago(I am now 21.) That finally gets me to the point of what this topic is all about. I beleive Christianity shouldn't be taken out of schools, but all religions should just be explained in a world history class or a class like that with no emphisis on one or another. This includes religion such as Satinism, which many consider completely wrong, but people still believe in it so in my opinion it should be included. If you want to learn more about one religion or another, i beleibe you should be allowed to take a class on it in high school, but you shouldn't be required to learn more about any religion like you have to with a foreign langauge. Teachers shouldn't be fired for talking about a religion, but they should be suspended or fined if they preach about or against a certain religion.
I believe that no one has the right to tell you what to believe, so trying to convert people because of stuff that has happened to them or for any other reason, that is just wrong.
These are just my opinions, so even though i'll argue with you about them, don't flat out yell at me for what I believe. Thank you.

[mkcrank mulisha]

its not christianity its intelligent design

[fat_poser]

well the supreme court just ruled its christianity in disguise

[fat_poser]

For people who say intelligent design isn't Christianity, name one person who has ever supported/contributed to intelligent design and is not a Christian.

ID is so flimsy because it is not science. It was never investigated with any scientific method. Some people who wanted to prove the Bible right decided to gather facts to support themselves. This is not science. If you're looking for a certain answer, you're probably not looking at other options, and your view is terribly biased. Darwinianism is science because Darwin had a problem and arrived at a conclusion through proper research and considering all the facts.

[notaskateaholic]

being a Christian i believe that Christainity should be taught. I want as many people as possible to understand the religion, and know Jesus Christ. Now im not saying that you have to believe in Christainity or have to study it but I believe you should be able to learn and worship freely.

if you think of it like that, then you, also, have to take the time to understand other religions, such as buddisim, islam, judism, even if you dont practice it

[someperson]

Now the whole converting thing,well thats just what christians do.I first of all am christian but i'm a non practiceing so i don't really care abvout that stuff.I do think it should be offered after school for people who want to study it if you want to put it that way,but so should all of the religons i mean it's not fair that only one is allowed. (this does not include satanism,the terrorists religon,...etc) these ones should not be taught at school and aren't,thank god.You know religon is a major cause of the wars in this world.Example the palistinians and the other group (forgot them),the romans and the christians (ancient times),the crusades,and now this terrorism.

[notaskateaholic]

palastinians is people from palasistin(sp?) you cant classify a country as all being terrorists. what did you mean by the terriorist religion?

[someperson]

well the terrorist religon (i forget what it is called) they have dreams and interpret them as signs from "god" or something and they act upon them.Okay the israelis and the palistinians are or were fighting over a sacred spot to build a church and have killed thousands of people in the name of "religon?!"

[notaskateaholic]

yes, your right bout the israelis and palistinians, they are fighting, but how do you konw which one is right, in both of there holy books the spot belongs to each of them, therefore, there both equally wrong and equally wrong.

[b gin r444]

they think jewish kids will get pissed but, realy if a jewish kid said happy hunkia to u would u b afending (no) so is saying merry christmas to them afending to them(no)

[fat_poser]

Learn to fucking spell before you try to formulate an opinion.

[BailBoarder]

y cant we learn about religion. i mean the founding fathers built this country upon god. look at the plede of allegiance(the real one) or the constitution, or the bill of rights and it all states things about god. and when u go to court(idk if they still do this) you have to swear upon a bible.u cant take the things that our country was built upon out of schools. i mean just think about it for a while.

[fat_poser]

y cant we learn about religion. i mean the founding fathers built this country upon god. look at the plede of allegiance(the real one) or the constitution, or the bill of rights and it all states things about god. and when u go to court(idk if they still do this) you have to swear upon a bible.u cant take the things that our country was built upon out of schools. i mean just think about it for a while.

Your country was built on murdered natives, and you do a pretty good job taking that out of your schools.

[HabitatSkater]

y cant we learn about religion. i mean the founding fathers built this country upon god. look at the plede of allegiance(the real one) or the constitution, or the bill of rights and it all states things about god. and when u go to court(idk if they still do this) you have to swear upon a bible.u cant take the things that our country was built upon out of schools. i mean just think about it for a while.

You can learn about religion in schools. It's called philosophy. Our country was build on lies, and the graves of Native Americans. Our country was also built on freedom of religion.

[asianguy1]

It's called the tough shit law. The seperation between state and church. While i'm at school I don't want to listen to a religious bastard spewing off about how jesus is with us when God doesn't do shit. I want to hear though about history. and paganism because thats a fact, I wanna hear about western civililaztion with buhdism because its pretty cool way to look at things, I want to hear about the hebrews because they made up god to scare the shit out of people(the old testament), I don't want to hear about how god forgives and that gays shouldn't get married, because christians read the old testament and they fuck up the meaning cause they don't go to the temple now do they? They make the new testament picturing god as a forgiving one. Fuck that man. The christians basically say that if you did the mosthorrible fucking thing in the world god forgives you. Well I got a plan before I die, I'm going to get baptized right before i die so i won't have the chance to commit a sin. And I will be in heaven. Thank fucking Allah for people's stupidity.

[asianguy1]

Ok you guys talk about the pledge well fuck that we put that under god shit in during the 50's as just to act as another brick on the wall to protect us from communism.