This Element crap is confusing me...

[Stinkoman40x]

I just really don't understand why people hate Element. BESIDES BAM MARGERA, why do their boards suck? I've looked on a bunch of threads about this, and everyone says their boards suck, but NEVER give a reason. Besides, if their boards are horrible, why are they critically acclaimed and have an AWESOME skate team? I'm thinking about buying one just out of curiosity, so I need to know.

[theflyinglemonhead]

Element sux lol.

[Fallen-is-ballen]

I hate element, but bam is cool.

Element boards feel soggy, have a weird shape, and its hard to get a good flick off the nose of their decks.

Back in the day though(2001-2003?) their decks were amazing.

The best decks in the industry right now are toy machine, alien workshop or anti hero imo.

[twitchy204]

the concave is fine to me. the the tail and nose flatten out very quickly. my main issue, is that mine had pop for the first uhh, 5 minutes. after that, it felt all soggy and weak.

people do have reason to be ragging on element. they're only "up-to-par" decks are ridiculously priced because they try and use all of this "next generation of skateboarding" shit.

element sux lol.

[scottio19]

I've tried my friends Element and it was okay. Element is one of those brands that a lot of people get just to act like a skater because they think its cool and want attention. (though not always the case) That is why I will not ever get Element or DC's, theyre just too mainstream.

I hate element, but bam is cool.

Element boards feel soggy, have a weird shape, and its hard to get a good flick off the nose of their decks.

Back in the day though(2001-2003?) their decks were amazing.

The best decks in the industry right now are toy machine, alien workshop or anti hero imo.

I cant wait until I can get a Toy Machine. But first I need to break my old deck... :glare:

[Fallen-is-ballen]

I've tried my friends Element and it was okay. Element is one of those brands that a lot of people get just to act like a skater because they think its cool and want attention. (though not always the case) That is why I will not ever get Element or DC's, theyre just too mainstream.

Agreed, DC sucks balls.

Nobody skates that shit nowadays, its all about vans and nike sb.

[twitchy204]

it depends on what you're looking for. my friend had a pair of DC's that lasted him a year. and they weren't THAT bulky.

[Christopher_Navarro]

elements feel heavy to me.

i happen to like enjoi.

the last 6 boards i have had were enjoi.
besides a shop deck.

[Stinkoman40x]

Yea, all my boards so far have been enjoi. they're amazing.

[Adrenaline]

Elements were great back in the day.

[juice]

wow im still suprised people bitch about this

[Foundation999]

my friend has a Muska element.
The flip and pop is actually great in my opinion, although it started to feel soggy fast

[twitchy204]

my friend has a Muska element.
The flip and pop is actually great in my opinion, although it started to feel soggy fast

exactly. element is known for this in my opinion.

[Mr. Gone]

elements aren't really too bad, but for the most part they are a shock absorber on wheels. there's no response snap, and it just feels like it's waterlogged.

[romero683]

It is not that element boards sux...people hate it because it is too commercial but still boards are good while they last...its just that they dont last much =)

[the_unknown_soldier]

Agreed, DC sucks balls.

Nobody skates that shit nowadays, its all about vans and nike sb.
Perhaps their products do, but you still have to respect the company soley for their commitment towards skateboarding. (Offering a million to open up Love Park.)

[manual-man1112]

i kinda like the shapes, but they do get that soggy feeling rather fast and there decks chip easy too.

[punkordie]

i like the pop of element
im not heavy enugh to break boards so i cant say much

[Mateosk8]

They chip after first use and break easily.

[Fallen-is-ballen]

Perhaps their products do, but you still have to respect the company soley for their commitment towards skateboarding. (Offering a million to open up Love Park.)

Sorry man, I guess I should of stated that only the products suck, my bad.

[Turboz]

Elements are pretty good. The helium models were probably the only boards that sucked, As for people who rag on element, it's not the board's fault, it's your fault.

[The Godfather]

every element ive used has sucked. i havent used a ton but still

[Fallen-is-ballen]

Elements are pretty good. The helium models were probably the only boards that sucked, As for people who rag on element, it's not the board's fault, it's your fault.

So you are saying its our fault that elements have shitty shapes, pop, and durability?

We don't make the decks, element does, idiot.

[scumfiesta1124]

elements are shit quality. probably made in china by 5 year old kids. no offence to any asians. but i dont skate mainstream stuff anyways.

[ironvenom12]

element sucks haha friend of mine had one,the downfalls are already mentioned but yea

[Turboz]

So you are saying its our fault that elements have shitty shapes, pop, and durability?

We don't make the decks, element does, idiot.and you buy them, making you the idiot. If you can't handle the way element boards are made, then don't buy them, plain and simple.

[nbdpete]

It depends on the deck and on your preference. When I first skated, my freind's element deck was pretty awesome. His new one was cheap (that's why he bought it) and I'm not liking it. It feels heavy.

A lot of people starting skating end up with element because element is smart and have a lot of marketing. Everywhere where I shop, element comprises of 50% of the decks (they aren't many true skating shops here, just surf/skate/clothing etc). Its not hard to think element as a great brand if thats the case.

[Fallen-is-ballen]

and you buy them, making you the idiot. If you can't handle the way element boards are made, then don't buy them, plain and simple.

That IS the reason why I don't buy buy element decks.

How much more are you going to prove your stupidity?

[the_unknown_soldier]

Sorry man, I guess I should of stated that only the products suck, my bad.
Nah, I was agreeing with you. I just wanted to state how I respect some companies even if I don't like their products. Blind fits that example too. Shitty boards, amazing team.

[the_unknown_soldier]

and you buy them, making you the idiot. If you can't handle the way element boards are made, then don't buy them, plain and simple.
He's an idiot for trying a product and not likeing it? Get fucked.

[froto]

i think element decks are atrocious. i would skate any enjoi or almost over one any day.

[Turboz]

That IS the reason why I don't buy buy element decks.

How much more are you going to prove your stupidity?I'm stupid because I like element decks and said they're a great product? Element decks are good, you act like every board they make sucks. If you can't skate as well with a element, don't blame the product, it's just not the right one for you. And when I said "it's not the board's fault it's your fault", I didn't intend for that to be taken literally, I meant that, you control the board, and if you mess up on a trick don't blame it on the company for making a "shitty product".

[the_unknown_soldier]

If you were skating an uncomftorble skateboard, you would probably mess up too.

[Ska]

WTF turboz little kid ! have sex.You're not stupid because you said you like element ,maybe element decks are the right ones for you . but other decks are better for me then element ,and thats how it is for me .

[sk8mafia]

i skated my friends element it had pretty good pop i didnt mind the shape it was good but it was a bit heavy so yeah they arent all that bad if you ask me, i skate girl decks now though (i NEVER had an element my first board was world industries complete)

[Fallen-is-ballen]

I'm stupid because I like element decks and said they're a great product? Element decks are good, you act like every board they make sucks. If you can't skate as well with a element, don't blame the product, it's just not the right one for you. And when I said "it's not the board's fault it's your fault", I didn't intend for that to be taken literally, I meant that, you control the board, and if you mess up on a trick don't blame it on the company for making a "shitty product".


Did I ever say it fucked up my skating? No. I can skate pretty much any deck for the most part.

I said they have bad pop, break easily and feel soggy.

Sure it doesn't affect my skating, but id rather skate something that feels good, rather than
something that feels like a soggy peice of cardboard.

I agreed with you when you said the skater does the tricks, not the deck, but its all about about what feels good under your feet, so if it doesn't, then why skate it unless its free?

/of your pathetic failure.

[enjoiyourlocalskater]

element seperates the experienced skaters to the 12 year olds. plain and simple. i hate to say it but they are so big right now people where i live seperate the "posers" from the skaters.so gay. skate element if it makes you happy.

[Turboz]

Did I ever say it fucked up my skating? No. I can skate pretty much any deck for the most part.

I said they have bad pop, break easily and feel soggy.

Sure it doesn't affect my skating, but id rather skate something that feels good, rather than
something that feels like a soggy peice of cardboard.

I agreed with you when you said the skater does the tricks, not the deck, but its all about about what feels good under your feet, so if it doesn't, then why skate it unless its free?

/of your pathetic failure.you don't judge an entire company's product line based on one broken board. And you say it fucked up your board yet you state they have bad pop, break easily, and are soggy, which would fuck up anyone's skating regardless. I can understand the fact that you don't like the feel and shape of element boards, I don't know about the fact that they break easily. Just about every board can break easily when you trick off a 10 stair too many times. Soggy piece of cardboard? The board I had felt a little wierd, I admit, but it was still a good board. And if you want one for free so bad then go to one of their demos. I'm pretty sure they do product tosses.

/<-Don't Do That.

[d-ville skater]

Element it self is fucking sick.

I hate their decks. The feel of them? Cant take it. But if you like Label's then you should like Elements.

[Turboz]

WTF turboz little kid ! have sex.You're not stupid because you said you like element ,maybe element decks are the right ones for you . but other decks are better for me then element ,and thats how it is for me . 08' insult of the year

[Turboz]

Element it self is fucking sick.

I hate their decks. The feel of them? Cant take it. But if you like Label's then you should like Elements. I'll mos def try Black Labels if I knew where the fucking skateshop was..................................

[Habitat.skater.69]

DGK is definetely where it's at, don't mess with Element they sux.

[Randomzero]

Regular element boards are sick i think
anything else is shit.helium etc

[Fallen-is-ballen]

you don't judge an entire company's product line based on one broken board. And you say it fucked up your board yet you state they have bad pop, break easily, and are soggy, which would fuck up anyone's skating regardless. I can understand the fact that you don't like the feel and shape of element boards, I don't know about the fact that they break easily. Just about every board can break easily when you trick off a 10 stair too many times. Soggy piece of cardboard? The board I had felt a little wierd, I admit, but it was still a good board. And if you want one for free so bad then go to one of their demos. I'm pretty sure they do product tosses.

/<-Don't Do That.

You don't make any goddamn sense. When did I ever say I wanted an element board?

And just a little fact for you, some boards break faster than others, and if you had been skating for a while you would of realized that, nooblet.

Don't do what? this? If you didn't already know, / means end.

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Whatcha gonna do nigguh?

[Turboz]

You don't make any goddamn sense. When did I ever say I wanted an element board?

And just a little fact for you, some boards break faster than others, and if you had been skating for a while you would of realized that, nooblet.

Don't do what? this? If you didn't already know, / means end.

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Whatcha gonna do nigguh?yeah, I know it means end. Yeah, of course, but it depends on how you use it. I have been skating, not currently. Maybe you're just more likely to break boards more than others. Some people
never break a board, regardless. What I was saying is that you think the product sucks because it "messes up your skating" then you say that their products sucked, products as in more than one (just in case you don't understand), so why say all of Element's products suck when you've just skated one? If you did not mean all of their products, I dearly apologize, and if that was the case then what did you mean by "products"?

[Fallen-is-ballen]

yeah, I know it means end. Yeah, of course, but it depends on how you use it. I have been skating, not currently. Maybe you're just more likely to break boards more than others. Some people
never break a board, regardless. What I was saying is that you think the product sucks because it "messes up your skating" then you say that their products sucked, products as in more than one (just in case you don't understand), so why say all of Element's products suck when you've just skated one? If you did not mean all of their products, I dearly apologize, and if that was the case then what did you mean by "products"?

I was referring to the decks, if you misunderstood, my bad, if you read one of my previous posts you would of realized that I said the decks do NOT mess up my skating, i just hate skating something that feels like a sponge when you pop it.

Ive skated a lot of decks, probably 100 or more if im not mistaken, ive been skating for 4 and a half years, ive pretty much tried every deck there is to try, and I know which ones break easily, have the most pop, best shape, ect.

Im just gonna say now that elements dont hold up, its really not my opinion either, its a fact.

There are only 3 boards that have never snapped on me, maybe cracked because of the crazy shit I try sometimes, but never snapped, those three decks would be anti-hero, toy machine and foundation.

You should really try tum yeto, dna dist, or dlx dist boards if you want to try something worth your 50$ otherwise you might as well buy blanks, because nothing even comes close to these decks.

Element is just a gimmick of what a skateboard company should be.

[Turboz]

I was referring to the decks, if you misunderstood, my bad, if you read one of my previous posts you would of realized that I said the decks do NOT mess up my skating, i just hate skating something that feels like a sponge when you pop it.

Ive skated a lot of decks, probably 100 or more if im not mistaken, ive been skating for 4 and a half years, ive pretty much tried every deck there is to try, and I know which ones break easily, have the most pop, best shape, ect.

Im just gonna say now that elements dont hold up, its really not my opinion either, its a fact.

There are only 3 boards that have never snapped on me, maybe cracked because of the crazy shit I try sometimes, but never snapped, those three decks would be anti-hero, toy machine and foundation.

You should really try tum yeto, dna dist, or dlx dist boards if you want to try something worth your 50$ otherwise you might as well buy blanks, because nothing even comes close to these decks.

Element is just a gimmick of what a skateboard company should be. Well, I didn't try crazy shit on my element, but it had some good pop though. The only reason it ever broke is because I sold it to my friend (who was well known for breaking boards, and at time I was unaware of this unfortunate fact.) so I guess it's durability is questionable. Element does contribute to the skating community, you have to give them that, so they're doing one thing right. I'll probably get a toy machine then, if only I could find that god forsaken skate shop that this one guy at the skatepark was talking about. What do you think about Zero?

[Fallen-is-ballen]

Well, I didn't try crazy shit on my element, but it had some good pop though. The only reason it ever broke is because I sold it to my friend (who was well known for breaking boards, and at time I was unaware of this unfortunate fact.) so I guess it's durability is questionable. Element does contribute to the skating community, you have to give them that, so they're doing one thing right. I'll probably get a toy machine then, if only I could find that god forsaken skate shop that this one guy at the skatepark was talking about. What do you think about Zero?

No skateshop at the skatepark? That's uncommon.

Zero's are decent, better than element, but once you try tum yeto decks(foundation, toy machine) you never go back.

[Turboz]

No skateshop at the skatepark? That's uncommon.

Zero's are decent, better than element, but once you try tum yeto decks(foundation, toy machine) you never go back. you couldn't really call it skatepark, more like a parking lot with boxes and ramps from camp woodward. For some odd reason though people call it a skatepark, even though it's like 1/3 the size of a walmart parking lot (I'll put up pics of the "skatepark" tomorrow). The skateship is in some italian town nearby, I forget the name, but I know it's there somewhere, but due to my bad italian and unfamliarity to the town itself, it's probably going to take a long time to find it. I'm mos def going to get a Black Label, or a Toy Machine, if I ever find that skateshop because i'm not going to buy it over the internet.

[froto]

No skateshop at the skatepark? That's uncommon.

Zero's are decent, better than element, but once you try tum yeto decks(foundation, toy machine) you never go back.

they're good, but i didn't pledge my allegiance to them or anything...its just a deck. i've been riding girls and chocolates lately though. toy machines are just too light for me at times.

[ABC ledgeman]

No skateshop at the skatepark? That's uncommon.

Zero's are decent, better than element, but once you try tum yeto decks(foundation, toy machine) you never go back.
Until they break on the first day.

[(Slick Monkey)]

I hate element, but bam is cool.

Element boards feel soggy, have a weird shape, and its hard to get a good flick off the nose of their decks.

Back in the day though(2001-2003?) their decks were amazing.

The best decks in the industry right now are toy machine, alien workshop or anti hero imo.
you said you hated Dlxsf wood
I guess you finally came to your senes.

[Fallen-is-ballen]

you said you hated Dlxsf wood
I guess you finally came to your senes.

I didn't say I hated the wood, just the shapes.

Ive tried all 3 brands of dlx decks, krooked and real had a weird shape, but anti hero feels just right.

I guess I should of said that when I stated dlx decks had a weird shape, because I was only talking about krooked and real.

[Chupacabra.]

i had mine for a week and it broke on a flatground sw pop shuv lololololol it was ok though

[sk8folife]

elements feel heavy to me.

i happen to like enjoi.

the last 6 boards i have had were enjoi.
besides a shop deck.

listen i hope people like this dont influence the way you buy your boards. im telling you this. wieght does not help you land tricks more easily. board usually matterss about pop and how you like the concave. so if you like elements because you like the concave. go get one. besides if you guys think differently, i could care less you guys can go spend more money for a lighter deck

[Enj0i]

mine was good for the first 2 times out...after that the board just didnt have the same feel to it and didnt pop for shit.

[scriptfactory]

I skated Element back in 1998-2001. Then I stopped skating 'til 2007. I can honestly say that I love the shape and the pop of a new Element deck. The Featherlites suck, they break way too easily. Never skated a Fiberlight. Heliums have the same problem as a Featherlight...but their decks just feel right to my feet and I can afford to buy a new one whenever I want so that isn't a problem. I love the lightness of their hi-tech decks so I just bought an Element Push. I'm going to see if it will keep it's pop and maybe post a review.

Does anyone know another skate co. that makes decks that feel similar to an Element?

Edit: Shit I just noticed this thread was a week old...

[Foundation999]

Probably black label

[scriptfactory]

Probably black label
Thanks, man!

[FREELOVEPARK]

I've never liked elements.. The pop was gone almost instantly for me, and it feels soggy.

[JustGoSkate!]

i hate how element tries to be everything and can't develop it's own style. if you take a look at it's shirts, there are so many GANGSTA designed graphiti ones but then there are all these emo ones, and regular ones, and i dunno, it just tries so hard. sure it has a pretty good team but trying to make shoes too is pathetic as most of them suck anyway. if you look at all the other boards, they have a distinctive feel to them and they have a distinct style. like toy machine with their monster art and habitat with its nature stuff, and alien workshop with....its aliens and cool patterns. but element has none of that distincness. its boards feel soggy, and yeah they really have no pop. they are heavy and the nose/tail are radically different in size. so no style and no quality = fail.

sorry for the bad typing, i kinda typed it fast and on a laptop.

[the_unknown_soldier]

i hate how element tries to be everything and can't develop it's own style. if you take a look at it's shirts, there are so many GANGSTA designed graphiti ones but then there are all these emo ones, and regular ones, and i dunno, it just tries so hard. sure it has a pretty good team but trying to make shoes too is pathetic as most of them suck anyway. if you look at all the other boards, they have a distinctive feel to them and they have a distinct style. like toy machine with their monster art and habitat with its nature stuff, and alien workshop with....its aliens and cool patterns. but element has none of that distincness. its boards feel soggy, and yeah they really have no pop. they are heavy and the nose/tail are radically different in size. so no style and no quality = fail.

sorry for the bad typing, i kinda typed it fast and on a laptop.
You are such a fucking idiot it's not even funny. It's called diversity, dipshit. Element is a huge company, and they're not going to stick to just one "style". Fuck off.

[Fallen-is-ballen]

i hate how element tries to be everything and can't develop it's own style. if you take a look at it's shirts, there are so many GANGSTA designed graphiti ones but then there are all these emo ones, and regular ones, and i dunno, it just tries so hard. sure it has a pretty good team but trying to make shoes too is pathetic as most of them suck anyway. if you look at all the other boards, they have a distinctive feel to them and they have a distinct style. like toy machine with their monster art and habitat with its nature stuff, and alien workshop with....its aliens and cool patterns. but element has none of that distincness. its boards feel soggy, and yeah they really have no pop. they are heavy and the nose/tail are radically different in size. so no style and no quality = fail.

sorry for the bad typing, i kinda typed it fast and on a laptop.

Whoa buddy, the decks may suck, but their shoes on the otherhand...