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himhkd
04-06-2008, 09:45 PM
listen to the beats on both of these songs

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J2Il3ZAsVb8



http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR0VwHGnPv4

RageAgainstTheToyMachine
04-06-2008, 09:51 PM
Which came first?

Either way I like Ludacris' one better.

Dying_To_Live
04-06-2008, 10:09 PM
So what?

UnknownSkater
04-06-2008, 11:01 PM
I use a break from The Winstons called the Amen. I have used a breaks such as funky drummer, coldsweat, etc. So do other Drum and Bass producers. You take somebody else's work and make your own by EQing, Compression, and other techniques.

I usually layer the Amen on top of a break out of single drum hits. Regardless, there is nothing wrong with it.

A track I'm listening to right now has an Amen layed over another break.

Marevix
04-07-2008, 05:37 AM
I use a break from The Winstons called the Amen. I have used a breaks such as funky drummer, coldsweat, etc. So do other Drum and Bass producers. You take somebody else's work and make your own by EQing, Compression, and other techniques.

I usually layer the Amen on top of a break out of single drum hits. Regardless, there is nothing wrong with it.

A track I'm listening to right now has an Amen layed over another break.


All EQ/compression does is alter the same music's sonic properties; nothing like writing your own music as far as creative talent is concerned. If a metal or rock band straight-up steals a riff and records it with subtle differences in a song which is otherwise original (or even puts it into new context), it's typically considered plagiarism - especially if they release it without crediting the composer.

UnknownSkater
04-07-2008, 10:33 AM
All EQ/compression does is alter the same music's sonic properties; nothing like writing your own music as far as creative talent is concerned. If a metal or rock band straight-up steals a riff and records it with subtle differences in a song which is otherwise original (or even puts it into new context), it's typically considered plagiarism - especially if they release it without crediting the composer.

A melody is different than a drumbeat. Drum and Bass producers usually take these breakbeats and chop them up creating new patterns and sometimes bringing them beyond syncopation into a form of art. In Drum and Bass the beaks are famous, used 1,000's of times, yet always sound different. No credit is needed because everybody knows where these breaks are from.

It's not plagiarism, it's art.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

Lastly, I must be unoriginal because I layered the amen over a break created from scratch. Ooohhh, god.

http://media.putfile.com/Still-56

DomPy
04-07-2008, 12:55 PM
stealing beats is laame.

UnknownSkater
04-07-2008, 03:42 PM
stealing beats is laame.

Can't help ignorance.

jpharaoh69
04-07-2008, 03:59 PM
are we talking about the drums or guitar?

cnnnglsscck
04-07-2008, 04:21 PM
i dont see any ludacris

Flipskater2215cc
04-07-2008, 04:42 PM
the first one, although it doesn't sound like him. i'm feeling the dilated people's version, though.

DomPy
04-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Can't help ignorance.

that's not ignorance. he didn't just steal the beat, he stole the melody, and unless he gave credit to the original artist, that just sucks.

Burrut
04-08-2008, 11:50 AM
almost every rapper has stolen beats before. sampling songs is nothing new in the industry

UnknownSkater
04-08-2008, 12:18 PM
almost every rapper has stolen beats before. sampling songs is nothing new in the industry

Thank you! Rap started with sampling and turntables.